View Full Version : Brian Cashman has my Permission ....


Green Jets & Ham
11-29-2005, 05:05 PM
.... to wake-up from his slumber and MAKE SOME FRIGGIN MOVES!! :wtf:

The one thing I'll never understand was why George seemed so desperate to keep this book-keeper :-s

Smurf
11-29-2005, 05:11 PM
George is getting old. Time to leave his team in the hands of someone who can still run it.

GimmeShelter
11-29-2005, 05:16 PM
What do you really need Ham? Some bullpen and a CF.

Heard Cash on the FAN and it sounds like the asking price in everything he tries to do has been too high.

You lock up Farnsworth and a couple other bullpen guys and you should be fine.

Sounds like Pavano may be available and Wang untouchable.

Green Jets & Ham
11-29-2005, 05:23 PM
Sounds like Pavano may be available and Wang untouchable.
As it should be =D>

But yes, this book-keeper better lock-up Farnsworth and address the CF issue as well ... period!!

If he wants to move Jeter to CF I'm totally okay with that ... I even like the idea ... but then he needs to acquire a SS or 3B depending upon which position Arod will play

But Cashman needs to earn his coin now ... when it's NOT easy ... now we need him to be a real GM

GimmeShelter
11-29-2005, 05:25 PM
Cash dismissed the Jeter to center notion. Arod as well.

Green Jets & Ham
11-29-2005, 05:32 PM
Cash dismissed the Jeter to center notion. Arod as well.
That's another beef I have with this book-keeper ... it's not his place to dismiss a damn thing!

Torre is the manager, not the bookworm ... Torre is the one who suggested he might like to try Jeter in CF ... so who the eff is Brian Cashman to contradict the HOF manager?

What he needs to do is ask Torre if he meant what he said, then act accordingly based on the managers intentions

He doesn't tell Joe Torre who to play or where to play him ... that's NOT his call :x

Smurf
11-29-2005, 05:36 PM
Cash dismissed the Jeter to center notion. Arod as well.
That's another beef I have with this book-keeper ... it's not his place to dismiss a damn thing!

Torre is the manager, not the bookworm ... Torre is the one who suggested he might like to try Jeter in CF ... so who the eff is Brian Cashman to contradict the HOF manager?

What he needs to do is ask Torre if he meant what he said, then act accordingly based on the managers intentions

It's his job to throw out assinine suggestions such as moving Arod or Jeter to CF.


We both know that Torre made that suggestion to light a fire under those 2 to get him a damn CF....not to really move AROD or Jeter.

Green Jets & Ham
11-29-2005, 05:40 PM
It's his job to throw out assinine suggestions such as moving Arod or Jeter to CF.


We both know that Torre made that suggestion to light a fire under those 2 to get him a damn CF....not to really move AROD or Jeter.
Don't be so sure, little brother ... there have been quite a few outstanding players {HOF'ers too} who have moved from the MIF to the OF, including CF, and Jeter is a better "athlete" than most who made the move successfully

I do not believe Arod can make that move because the weakest aspect of his defense are pop-ups/fly balls ... but that is the strongest aspect of Jeter's defense so I have a hunch he would be a terrific CF

GimmeShelter
11-29-2005, 05:41 PM
Cash dismissed the Jeter to center notion. Arod as well.
That's another beef I have with this book-keeper ... it's not his place to dismiss a damn thing!

Torre is the manager, not the bookworm ... Torre is the one who suggested he might like to try Jeter in CF ... so who the eff is Brian Cashman to contradict the HOF manager?

What he needs to do is ask Torre if he meant what he said, then act accordingly based on the managers intentions

It's his job to throw out assinine suggestions such as moving Arod or Jeter to CF.


We both know that Torre made that suggestion to light a fire under those 2 to get him a damn CF....not to really move AROD or Jeter.

Great point Smizz....never thought of it that way.

I have a nightmare that you guys end up getting Abreu. Good for you bad for the rest of us.

Smurf
11-29-2005, 05:44 PM
It's his job to throw out assinine suggestions such as moving Arod or Jeter to CF.


We both know that Torre made that suggestion to light a fire under those 2 to get him a damn CF....not to really move AROD or Jeter.
Don't be so sure, little brother ... there have been quite a few HOF'ers who have moved from the MIF to the OF, including CF, and Jeter is a better "athlete" than most who made the move successfully

I do not believe Arod can make that move because the weakest aspect of his defense are pop-ups/fly balls ... but that is the strongest aspect of Jeter's defense so I have a hunch he would be a terrific CF

You have a point Hammer but the fact it's so early in FA and there are still plenty of legit replacements...I can't seriously consider even talking about moving either of these guys untill it became the last option.

I mean Jeter might be a decent CF...but Id exhaust all other options before I went that route.

Green Jets & Ham
11-29-2005, 05:45 PM
Great point Smizz....never thought of it that way.

I have a nightmare that you guys end up getting Abreu. Good for you bad for the rest of us.
Why GS, is he Good?

I really don't watch a lot of NL baseball, can Abreu play CF or is he strictly a Corner OF?

Not that it would matter a great deal because we can live with Matsui in CF for a year

And what kind of hitter is he ... does he K a ton or does he have a good eye?

Smurf
11-29-2005, 05:45 PM
I have a nightmare that you guys end up getting Abreu. Good for you bad for the rest of us.

Abreu would do.

GimmeShelter
11-29-2005, 06:54 PM
I have a nightmare that you guys end up getting Abreu. Good for you bad for the rest of us.

Abreu would do.

Oh yeah. One of the most underated players in the game.

Took grief for not hitting Homers after his display at the All-Star contest and still ended up 24-102 with 31 SB , .282 avg and 117 walks.

He's like a Matsui with 35 SB capability.

Never noticed his defense so cant confirm CF ability.

Barton
11-29-2005, 07:00 PM
Abreu would not be a good fit in centerfield, imo.

Better than Bernie of course, but thats not saying anything.

JonEJet
11-29-2005, 10:53 PM
Nomar

You heard it here 1st

mbn007
11-30-2005, 08:55 AM
Cash dismissed the Jeter to center notion. Arod as well.
That's another beef I have with this book-keeper ... it's not his place to dismiss a damn thing!

Torre is the manager, not the bookworm ... Torre is the one who suggested he might like to try Jeter in CF ... so who the eff is Brian Cashman to contradict the HOF manager?

What he needs to do is ask Torre if he meant what he said, then act accordingly based on the managers intentions

He doesn't tell Joe Torre who to play or where to play him ... that's NOT his call :xCalm down man.

Joe never suggested this move. All he did was respond to a reporter, who questioned the Yankee CF options. Joe responded that Jeter or A-Rod could handle it. He also said that MO is the best CF on the team, as well as the best athletic.

Do you think MO will be asked to move to CF?

Pipe down man. You're to emotional about this. The Yankee offense can easily survive with Crosby in CF, if push came to shove.

mbn007
11-30-2005, 09:03 AM
Great point Smizz....never thought of it that way.

I have a nightmare that you guys end up getting Abreu. Good for you bad for the rest of us.
Why GS, is he Good?

I really don't watch a lot of NL baseball, can Abreu play CF or is he strictly a Corner OF?

Not that it would matter a great deal because we can live with Matsui in CF for a year

And what kind of hitter is he ... does he K a ton or does he have a good eye?
As far as all around OFs go, Bobby Abreu is right up there. He's not the top, but he is on the lower end of the upper echelon players in the game.

He would be a super addition to the Yankees. And his age is just right, as he should be in his prime.

BlackLabelJetsFan
11-30-2005, 09:22 AM
Joe was basically misquoted about the whole CF thing - someone asked him if Jeter or Arod could handle the position, and he said sure. He never said that he was thinking about it. At least thats what the papers say this morning, and its very plausible.

Abreu is a solid solid OFer, and a guy I DON'T want the Yanks acquiring :wink: He's primarily played RF the past 3-4 years but he did play 18 games in CF in 2002 with no errors.

But if it means weakening the Phillies, then by all means, go Abreu!

mbn007
11-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Joe was basically misquoted about the whole CF thing - someone asked him if Jeter or Arod could handle the position, and he said sure. He never said that he was thinking about it. At least thats what the papers say this morning, and its very plausible.

Abreu is a solid solid OFer, and a guy I DON'T want the Yanks acquiring :wink: He's primarily played RF the past 3-4 years but he did play 18 games in CF in 2002 with no errors.

But if it means weakening the Phillies, then by all means, go Abreu!Wasn;'y Byrd or someone hurt for a stretch in 2002? I think that's when he moved to CF, but I do not have a good recollection of this.

IMO, he's a corner OF. If the Yankees acquired him, then Matsui moves to CF, and Bobby plays LF for a year, then RF after 2006, when Sheff's contract expires.

faba
11-30-2005, 11:29 AM
Abreu is a real good player and right fielder also- the Phillies will not trade him- they need relief help now in a big way -that is where their focus is

mbn007
11-30-2005, 01:03 PM
Abreu is a real good player and right fielder also- the Phillies will not trade him- they need relief help now in a big way -that is where their focus is

Scouting around the 'net, there seem to be some rumors of an Abreu and others for Povano and Gordon and other pieces. It seems that Gordon will not take 2 years from anyone except the Yankees, if he even accepts a 2 year deal. So maybe something is here.

Max
12-01-2005, 07:18 AM
I don't want Flash back. I like him but he has been terrible in the postseason and he is due to totally breakdown. Say thanks and move on.

GimmeShelter
12-01-2005, 09:14 AM
Abreu is a real good player and right fielder also- the Phillies will not trade him- they need relief help now in a big way -that is where their focus is

Scouting around the 'net, there seem to be some rumors of an Abreu and others for Povano and Gordon and other pieces. It seems that Gordon will not take 2 years from anyone except the Yankees, if he even accepts a 2 year deal. So maybe something is here.

You can't trade Gordon in any deal. He is a free agent. Why wouldn't the Phils just sign him unless they want Yanks to sign/trade/eat some salary?

I am hearing Abreu for Manny but a Pavano plus prospects for Abreu might make sense to the Phillies.

I wouldn't do it(Pavano deal) from a Phillie perspective but maybe they would.

mbn007
12-01-2005, 09:20 AM
Abreu is a real good player and right fielder also- the Phillies will not trade him- they need relief help now in a big way -that is where their focus is

Scouting around the 'net, there seem to be some rumors of an Abreu and others for Povano and Gordon and other pieces. It seems that Gordon will not take 2 years from anyone except the Yankees, if he even accepts a 2 year deal. So maybe something is here.

You can't trade Gordon in any deal. He is a free agent. Why wouldn't the Phils just sign him unless they want Yanks to sign/trade/eat some salary?

I am hearing Abreu for Manny but a Pavano plus prospects for Abreu might make sense to the Phillies.

I wouldn't do it(Pavano deal) from a Phillie perspective but maybe they would.
One of today's local papers had the Manny for Abreu deal rumor, on the backpage in fact.

I can see this from the Bosox prespecyive, as at least they are getting a viable slugger in return.