Do you people ever check out some of the houses? Look in the 175-200 grand range in Allen Texas.

Those houses are schweeeeeeeeeet. You would pay 800 grand for those houses in NJ.

Do you people ever check out some of the houses? Look in the 175-200 grand range in Allen Texas.

Those houses are schweeeeeeeeeet. You would pay 800 grand for those houses in NJ.

The only problem is where is Allen Texas and what can you do there?

Do you people ever check out some of the houses? Look in the 175-200 grand range in Allen Texas.

Those houses are schweeeeeeeeeet. You would pay 800 grand for those houses in NJ.

thats all my wife uses to look up homes in NC....we went down there about a month ago to look at some areas.....youre right...homes there at about 150-170 range are about 400-500 here...INSANE...

So would it be profitable to buy a house in Texas, load it on the back of a flatbed then move it to NY?

So would it be profitable to buy a house in Texas, load it on the back of a flatbed then move it to NY?

HAHA

We found ours on carolinahome.com

House we bought would probably go for about 500 here.

New Jersey has become insane.

Do you people ever check out some of the houses? Look in the 175-200 grand range in Allen Texas.

Those houses are schweeeeeeeeeet. You would pay 800 grand for those houses in NJ.

Dude,

Lived in the Northeast for most of my life.

You wouldn't believe the house you can buy in Texas.;)

So would it be profitable to buy a house in Texas, load it on the back of a flatbed then move it to NY?

WTF Husker?:eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't crap on Dorthy and Toto.

WTF Husker?:eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't crap on Dorthy and Toto.

Haha


So, Tx you made one Vbet of $1 dollar and lost?
You are quite the risk taker, arent you

WTF Husker?:eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't crap on Dorthy and Toto.

You're in Texas my man, it's directly below Kansas. Everyone knows that $hit flows downhill. It's inevitable.

Do you people ever check out some of the houses? Look in the 175-200 grand range in Allen Texas.

Those houses are schweeeeeeeeeet. You would pay 800 grand for those houses in NJ.

Moses, many things in life are too good to be true. I can promise you that inexpensive houses in unknown rural towns of the bumpkin states follow that same mantra. When large houses are priced that low there are many facors that contribute to it. Most important is the availability, or lack there of, of decent paying jobs nearby. Likely the best paying job within reason is at Tx's pig farm and strangely enough there are no pigs there, just alot of squealing.

Another main factor is the jobs that are available don't pay as well relative to the salaries around NYC. When I was a bank manager, the going salary was about 60k-80k depending on the bank. I looked into moving to NC years ago because the homes were cheap. The problem was the going salary for a bank manager down there was 35k-45k. Very large difference.

I look at it all this way: Everything in the tri state area is more money than most other area's in the country. That includes bills, cost of living, and salaries. I will conservatively say it's about 10% more than most other areas. So relatively speaking, if your income is 50k a year and your expense is 40k, your SAVINGS is 10k. If you move to a place like Allen, Tx your income might be 45k and your bills might be 40.5k (10% lower on each) leaving you with a net savings each year of 4.5k. Over 20 years without including potential gains/interest earned on your savings, you are missing out on 130k total saved money over that span all things being equal. When you figure the gains you could have made on that money in those 20 years, the loss is quite significant. If you can succeed in life in areas like the tri state, you can retire and live like a king anywhere else in the country when you need not work anymore. That's why many old folks move to FL/SC/GA/AZ/TX when they retire.

Being a realtor with Re/Max, I can tell you this...THE MARKET is now a buyers market....prices are being reduced by $50-100 thousand....

I have some NICE listings in Toms River.....

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Hey Brenda, I'll buy both houses if that sweet mermaid on the boat comes with them ;):pimp:

Bren I will take a 110k house off your hands. After you apply the 100k discount. Fixer upper would be fine.

Bren I will take a 110k house off your hands. After you apply the 100k discount. Fixer upper would be fine.

For a house in Jersey 110 grand will get you a house without a roof or foundation

Anyone thinking of starting a Landscape Business should think about moving to NJ......seriously.

Moses, many things in life are too good to be true. I can promise you that inexpensive houses in unknown rural towns of the bumpkin states follow that same mantra. When large houses are priced that low there are many facors that contribute to it. Most important is the availability, or lack there of, of decent paying jobs nearby. Likely the best paying job within reason is at Tx's pig farm and strangely enough there are no pigs there, just alot of squealing.

Another main factor is the jobs that are available don't pay as well relative to the salaries around NYC. When I was a bank manager, the going salary was about 60k-80k depending on the bank. I looked into moving to NC years ago because the homes were cheap. The problem was the going salary for a bank manager down there was 35k-45k. Very large difference.

I look at it all this way: Everything in the tri state area is more money than most other area's in the country. That includes bills, cost of living, and salaries. I will conservatively say it's about 10% more than most other areas. So relatively speaking, if your income is 50k a year and your expense is 40k, your SAVINGS is 10k. If you move to a place like Allen, Tx your income might be 45k and your bills might be 40.5k (10% lower on each) leaving you with a net savings each year of 4.5k. Over 20 years without including potential gains/interest earned on your savings, you are missing out on 130k total saved money over that span all things being equal. When you figure the gains you could have made on that money in those 20 years, the loss is quite significant. If you can succeed in life in areas like the tri state, you can retire and live like a king anywhere else in the country when you need not work anymore. That's why many old folks move to FL/SC/GA/AZ/TX when they retire.
Allen Texas is "North Dallas".

I've been there before. I went to 6th floor of the book depository and everything. ;)

Anyway, you make some valid points about relative costs and relative salaries, but the one factor you left as was property taxes and car insurance. The difference you retain outside the Tri-state area is between $9,000 to $12,000 grand a year.

Multiply those annual savings by 20 years and invest it in a mutual fund, and you've lost nothing. In fact, you probably come out ahead- and you won't drop dead of cancer before you hit 65, either. Thats an added bonus.

Listen, I want to wake up in the morning and smell lob lolly pine trees. I don't want to continue to wake up every morning and smell sht- I mean NJ.

This state can screw.

Allen Texas is "North Dallas".

I've been there before. I went to 6th floor of the book depository and everything. ;)

Anyway, you make some valid points about relative costs and relative salaries, but the one factor you left as was property taxes in car insurance. The difference you retain outside the Tri-state area is between $9,000 to $12,000 grand a year.

Multiply that by 20 years and invest it in a mutual fund.

Listen, I want to wake up in the morning and smell lob lolly pine trees. I don't want to continue to wake up every morning and smell sht- I mean NJ.

This state can screw.

Wow, where in NJ do you live? I live in Warren, and to be quite honest the only smells I wake up to are lilac bushes and fresh cut grass. And the sites are typically deer, turkeys, occasional bear, fox, and tons of other little vermin running around.

Wow, where in NJ do you live? I live in Warren, and to be quite honest the only smells I wake up to are lilac bushes and fresh cut grass. And the sites are typically deer, turkeys, occasional bear, fox, and tons of other little vermin running around.

I know where Warren is. How much was your house, 800 grand? What's your taxes? 15 grand a year?

Do you know where Stony Brook road is?

I know where Warren is. How much was your house, 800 grand? What's your taxes? 15 grand a year?

Do you know where Stony Brook road is?
My house is about $550, but it was sold through an estate so I had alot of leverage to bargain when I bought it. All in all I got it for $420k. It's an older colonial farmhouse built in 1860 with 2 additions on it. Warren taxes are actually quite cheap, relatively speaking. I have an acre and my annual txes are $6300. Warren kids go to a district HS in Watchung which keeps the taxes here lower. I know where Stoney Brook is, up near Watchung on the NE side of Warren. I'm a bit further west than that, near the Martinsville border.

My house is about $550, but it was sold through an estate so I had alot of leverage to bargain when I bought it. All in all I got it for $420k. It's an older colonial farmhouse built in 1860 with 2 additions on it. Warren taxes are actually quite cheap, relatively speaking. I have an acre and my annual txes are $6300. Warren kids go to a district HS in Watchung which keeps the taxes here lower. I know where Stoney Brook is, up near Watchung on the NE side of Warren. I'm a bit further west than that, near the Martinsville border.

It's a beautiful town. The houses over by Stony Brook are higher priced, I'm sure. I have relatives that live there. When we were kids, we used say "we're going for a ride to the country" when we visited them. Ha ha. Twenty miles down route 22. Ha ha.

Did they ever get around to putting up street lights yet?

It's a beautiful town. The houses over by Stony Brook are higher priced, I'm sure. I have relatives that live there. When we were kids, we used say "we're going for a ride to the country" when we visited them. Ha ha. Twenty miles down route 22. Ha ha.

Did they ever get around to putting up street lights yet?

Oh you'd be amazed at what's gone on in only the 2 years I lived here. 2 farms have been leveled. One has 8 new mega mansions built on them, the other is for Sr citizen retirement community. The retirement homes start at 850k and go up to 1.5 mil. Warren is a funny town, you wither have very quaint old colonial farm homes or you have mega mansions. The mega mansions are the result of people selling off their home to contractors who level them and build tghe mansion. It's a divided town now, those who love the historic homes, and those who want to live like kings in their gigantic homes. Everybody wins though, because property values are skyrocketing, even with the current market.

What's funny is I see counties like middlesex and union getting so overpopulated, and it's driving people westward into towns like Watchung/Warren/Bridgewater. We have a current restriction on subdividing land, vurrently no lower than an actre. If Warren changed that law to allow for 1/2 acre subdivisions then pretty much every homeowner here would be an instant millionairre and likely move further west lol.

Oh you'd be amazed at what's gone on in only the 2 years I lived here. 2 farms have been leveled. One has 8 new mega mansions built on them, the other is for Sr citizen retirement community. The retirement homes start at 850k and go up to 1.5 mil. Warren is a funny town, you wither have very quaint old colonial farm homes or you have mega mansions. The mega mansions are the result of people selling off their home to contractors who level them and build tghe mansion. It's a divided town now, those who love the historic homes, and those who want to live like kings in their gigantic homes. Everybody wins though, because property values are skyrocketing, even with the current market.

What's funny is I see counties like middlesex and union getting so overpopulated, and it's driving people westward into towns like Watchung/Warren/Bridgewater. We have a current restriction on subdividing land, vurrently no lower than an actre. If Warren changed that law to allow for 1/2 acre subdivisions then pretty much every homeowner here would be an instant millionairre and likely move further west lol.

Yeah, my Aunt and Uncle's house had a baseball field for a front lawn. You should have seen the back yard. Ha ha. She used to hitch a trailer to the back of the tractor and give us all rides. We were in heaven. Ha ha.

This is taking me way back. That was before route 78 was even built.

Wow, where in NJ do you live?

You've heard of Secaucus?

I'm the next town over. :pooh:

Here's a piece of advice if you consider staying in NJ. Like I mentioned earlier, the eastern and central counties of NJ are becomming vastly overpopulated. It takes practically an hour to get from one town to another on a weekend in those areas due to traffic. Contractors have built so many multi unit homes and apartments that people are practically on top of one another. Those wh ohave some money in those areas are starting to move a bit further west into areas surrounding Bridgewater to the point where the population here is what I remember Scotch Plains being like when I was gwoing up 20 years ago. There is also quite a bit of commerce coming into the area as well, and the home/property values are skyrocketing because of it. This trend is going to continue to the point where I think it will pour out all the way to the Phillipsburg area eventually. You can still find tremendous deals in towns like North Branch, Raritan, Branchburg, Whitehouse, Clinton, and all surrounding areas. Within the next 20 years or so I think this population surge is going to move on to those areas, meaning the values of the homes in those areas will begin to reap the benefits that Warren/Watchung/Dunellen/Bridgewater are seeing today.

Here's a piece of advice if you consider staying in NJ. Like I mentioned earlier, the eastern and central counties of NJ are becomming vastly overpopulated. It takes practically an hour to get from one town to another on a weekend in those areas due to traffic. Contractors have built so many multi unit homes and apartments that people are practically on top of one another. Those wh ohave some money in those areas are starting to move a bit further west into areas surrounding Bridgewater to the point where the population here is what I remember Scotch Plains being like when I was gwoing up 20 years ago. There is also quite a bit of commerce coming into the area as well, and the home/property values are skyrocketing because of it. This trend is going to continue to the point where I think it will pour out all the way to the Phillipsburg area eventually. You can still find tremendous deals in towns like North Branch, Raritan, Branchburg, Whitehouse, Clinton, and all surrounding areas. Within the next 20 years or so I think this population surge is going to move on to those areas, meaning the values of the homes in those areas will begin to reap the benefits that Warren/Watchung/Dunellen/Bridgewater are seeing today.

no you cant...i love in clinton (annandale)....dude its crazy out here...if you think 750,000 homes are a deal...more power to ya...the asking prices out here are insane...taxes are nutz...i have almost an acre and a half...i pay taxes of 3800.00 a year...which is awesome...by sept...6500.00 a year they will be...

Here's a piece of advice if you consider staying in NJ. Like I mentioned earlier, the eastern and central counties of NJ are becomming vastly overpopulated. It takes practically an hour to get from one town to another on a weekend in those areas due to traffic. Contractors have built so many multi unit homes and apartments that people are practically on top of one another. Those wh ohave some money in those areas are starting to move a bit further west into areas surrounding Bridgewater to the point where the population here is what I remember Scotch Plains being like when I was gwoing up 20 years ago. There is also quite a bit of commerce coming into the area as well, and the home/property values are skyrocketing because of it. This trend is going to continue to the point where I think it will pour out all the way to the Phillipsburg area eventually. You can still find tremendous deals in towns like North Branch, Raritan, Branchburg, Whitehouse, Clinton, and all surrounding areas. Within the next 20 years or so I think this population surge is going to move on to those areas, meaning the values of the homes in those areas will begin to reap the benefits that Warren/Watchung/Dunellen/Bridgewater are seeing today.

Ya know man, I wish I had a head start in the game but I was pretty much dropped on my head when I turned 18. My parents told me point blank "When you are 18 you are an adult and we are no longer legally obligated to do anything for you". I thought they were kidding around, but boy was I wrong. I joined the Navy and they moved to Florida and I thought when I got out they would let me stay with them, help me out with college and they were like "You're 22 years old, you're an adult, get a job and find a place to live". I took the initiative and went down to a college to register but got scared off by the student loans. And even if I didn't I still was going to have to find a job to support myself, so I found work and just never found time in my schedule to take classes. I pretty much resigned myself to living fast and dying young. Best laid plans of mice of men and all that, and I found mself at 25, still alive, with a baby to take care of and I had to get my sht together. It wasn't easy, nobody helped me, I overcame alot of adversity and personal demons, but here I am. It's not easy going through the daily grind when you know that at the end of the day, all you did was survive. You do that for twenty years and every year you watch this one and that one get the ball rolling because their parents gave them some help. Sometimes just a little help was all it took. I just could never get from out under.

I hope this bachelors degree changes my fortune. I put alot of blood,sweat and tears into it because I'm desperate. I'm looking for a way up and out. And basically, I just want to wipe the slate clean and just start fresh somewhere else. Somewhere where their are no ghosts and bad memories. Because NJ is just a constant reminder of what I was, and what I went through. It represents rejection and failure for me. Honestly, there is hatred in me towards this place.

$3,600 is a great deal on property taxes.

I'm paying about $5,000 for a townhouse in Jamesburg.

People wonder why I'm leaving.

That is a big part of it right there.

no you cant...i love in clinton (annandale)....dude its crazy out here...if you think 750,000 homes are a deal...more power to ya...the asking prices out here are insane...taxes are nutz...i have almost an acre and a half...i pay taxes of 3800.00 a year...which is awesome...by sept...6500.00 a year they will be...

Really? I just went on gsmls and looked up hunterdon countly, Clinton, rariton, readington, and a couple others. I found a boatload of capes running in the 280-325k range. Some had decent amounts of property (1 had almost 2 acres). Granted they are Capes, but if Jet Moses can deal with that for now, with almost 2 acres in NJ, he'll have a prime knockdown opportunity and possibly even a subdivision opportunity. There are plenty of steals to be had if you are either willing to look hard enough, or if you are willing to do some work on an older home.

Ya know man, I wish I had a head start in the game but I was pretty much dropped on my head when I turned 18. My parents told me point blank "When you are 18 you are an adult and we are no longer legally obligated to do anything for you". I thought they were kidding around, but boy was I wrong. I joined the Navy and they moved to Florida and I thought when I got out they would let me stay with them, help me out with college and they were like "You're 22 years old, you're an adult, get a job and find a place to live". I took the initiative and went down to a college to register but got scared off by the student loans. And even if I didn't I still was going to have to find a job to support myself, so I found work and just never found time in my schedule to take classes. I pretty much resigned myself to living fast and dying young. Best laid plans of mice of men and all that, and I found mself at 25, still alive, with a baby to take care of and I had to get my sht together. It wasn't easy, nobody helped me, I overcame alot of adversity and personal demons, but here I am. It's not easy going through the daily grind when you know that at the end of the day, all you did was survive. You do that for twenty years and every year you watch this one and that one get the ball rolling because their parents gave them some help. Sometimes just a little help was all it took. I just could never get from out under.

I hope this bachelors degree changes my fortune. I put alot of blood,sweat and tears into it because I'm desperate. I'm looking for a way up and out. And basically, I just want to wipe the slate clean and just start fresh somewhere else. Somewhere where their are no ghosts and bad memories. Because NJ is just a constant reminder of what I was, and what I went through. It represents rejection and failure for me. Honestly, there is hatred in me towards this place.
Wow dude, I really feel for you. I can understand the change of scenery being necessary for you. Whatever you decide to do, ditch those demons and go forward. I had alot of similarities growing up, but I also had a father who did everything and more for me. My mother hasn't tried to even speak to me in about 3 years now, and I don't suspect she ever will again. But I decided to give up that grudge long ago. She has her issues, and i can't spend the rest of my life wondering why my mother was never there for me.

You've obviously got a very good head on your shoulders so whatever you decide to do, I wish you all the success and happiness you can get. Good luck bro.

Really? I just went on gsmls and looked up hunterdon countly, Clinton, rariton, readington, and a couple others. I found a boatload of capes running in the 280-325k range. Some had decent amounts of property (1 had almost 2 acres). Granted they are Capes, but if Jet Moses can deal with that for now, with almost 2 acres in NJ, he'll have a prime knockdown opportunity and possibly even a subdivision opportunity. There are plenty of steals to be had if you are either willing to look hard enough, or if you are willing to do some work on an older home.

i forgot to say..lol..i DONT live in those 750,000 homes..lol..i have a ranch...we are trying to sell now..its been slow...

Wow dude, I really feel for you. I can understand the change of scenery being necessary for you. Whatever you decide to do, ditch those demons and go forward. I had alot of similarities growing up, but I also had a father who did everything and more for me. My mother hasn't tried to even speak to me in about 3 years now, and I don't suspect she ever will again. But I decided to give up that grudge long ago. She has her issues, and i can't spend the rest of my life wondering why my mother was never there for me.

You've obviously got a very good head on your shoulders so whatever you decide to do, I wish you all the success and happiness you can get. Good luck bro.

Jetmo- You had an awesome education. It is the education of life. You graduated earlier than I did, and are probably the wiser man for it.

Material things, they will come to you now with the other degree that you got. But that is secondary, even though I know that is hard to swallow as a fact.

Those material things can accumulate quickly now, with the right opportunity.

Sometimes a clean break and a fresh start are exactly what you need to get yourself going. I have done that several times and almost done 180's in where my personal life and/or career went. That is not a recommendation for you, just a personal experience.

Brother, what you have can't be bought in any bookstore. It has obviously served you well and you are still young enough and smart enough to get where you want to go in life.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Brenjetsfan]Being a realtor with Re/Max, I can tell you this...THE MARKET is now a buyers market....prices are being reduced by $50-100 thousand....

I have some NICE listings in Toms River.....

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$285,000? :eek: That's a $70,000 house at best here.

[quote=Brenjetsfan]Being a realtor with Re/Max, I can tell you this...THE MARKET is now a buyers market....prices are being reduced by $50-100 thousand....

I have some NICE listings in Toms River.....

Outstanding Agents, Outstanding Results"Click Photo for Additional Media and Enlargement
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$285,000? :eek: That's a $70,000 house at best here.

And in Kansas it would even come with wheels!!!!!!! The nerve of NJ!!!:Cuss:

[quote=Alk]

And in Kansas it would even come with wheels!!!!!!! The nerve of NJ!!!:Cuss:

:) No wheels, we're talking a real house with a foundation and everything. People steer clear of trailers around here, they tend to get blown away by tornados.

Wow dude, I really feel for you. I can understand the change of scenery being necessary for you. Whatever you decide to do, ditch those demons and go forward. I had alot of similarities growing up, but I also had a father who did everything and more for me. My mother hasn't tried to even speak to me in about 3 years now, and I don't suspect she ever will again. But I decided to give up that grudge long ago. She has her issues, and i can't spend the rest of my life wondering why my mother was never there for me.

You've obviously got a very good head on your shoulders so whatever you decide to do, I wish you all the success and happiness you can get. Good luck bro.

Thanks.

Yeah, ultimately you just have to move on. What else can you do? It took me a while to figure it all out, but at least I eventually did. Better late than never.

Jetmo- You had an awesome education. It is the education of life. You graduated earlier than I did, and are probably the wiser man for it.

Material things, they will come to you now with the other degree that you got. But that is secondary, even though I know that is hard to swallow as a fact.

Those material things can accumulate quickly now, with the right opportunity.

Sometimes a clean break and a fresh start are exactly what you need to get yourself going. I have done that several times and almost done 180's in where my personal life and/or career went. That is not a recommendation for you, just a personal experience.

Brother, what you have can't be bought in any bookstore. It has obviously served you well and you are still young enough and smart enough to get where you want to go in life.

Good luck.

Thanks.

Yeah I guess my parents must have done something right. I'm smart. I'm handsome. And gosh darnit, people like me. :cheers:

[quote=Boozer76]

:) No wheels, we're talking a real house with a foundation and everything. People steer clear of trailers around here, they tend to get blown away by tornados.]

Really? I thought that's how people relocated in Kansas??:Nuts:

Really? I just went on gsmls and looked up hunterdon countly, Clinton, rariton, readington, and a couple others. I found a boatload of capes running in the 280-325k range. Some had decent amounts of property (1 had almost 2 acres). Granted they are Capes, but if Jet Moses can deal with that for now, with almost 2 acres in NJ, he'll have a prime knockdown opportunity and possibly even a subdivision opportunity. There are plenty of steals to be had if you are either willing to look hard enough, or if you are willing to do some work on an older home.

Dude, the biggest obstacle for me now is what it has always been-

The down payment. And clearing that, our combined income is going to come up just a wee bit short (just like it always does). I don't have a co-signer. If I had a lousy 5 grand and a co-signer, I'd have bought a house 15 years ago.

I don't have a pot to piss in, and I'm 22 grand in debt with student loans.

My credit rating is awesome. Did I ever tell you I bought a brand new car with a credit card? I did. I had 0% interest for 12 months and when the 12 months was up I did a balance transfer to another 12 month 0% interest credit card.

I paid that f**ker off in two years, too.

Anyway, I also built a house in Brazil on credit cards, too.

So I've borrowed and paid back in excess $50,000 dollars over 15 years. And yet, I can't get a friggin mortgage. And even if I had the down payment, and the mortgage, the taxes would deep six everything.

I can't get from out from under, here. That's why I'm leaving.

Dude, the biggest obstacle for me now is what it has always been-

The down payment. And clearing that, our combined income is going to come up just a wee bit short (just like it always does). I don't have a co-signer. If I had a lousy 5 grand and a co-signer, I'd have bought a house 15 years ago.

I don't have a pot to piss in, and I'm 22 grand in debt with student loans.

My credit rating is awesome. Did I ever tell you I bought a brand new car with a credit card? I did. I had 0% interest for 12 months and when the 12 months was up I did a balance transfer to another 12 month 0% interest credit card.

I paid that f**ker off in two years, too.

Anyway, I also built a house in Brazil on credit cards, too.

So I've borrowed and paid back in excess $50,000 dollars over 15 years. And yet, I can't get a friggin mortgage. And even if I had the down payment, and the mortgage, the taxes would deep six everything.

I can't get from out from under, here. That's why I'm leaving.

If your credit score is good and you have income I can get you a mortgage with little to no downpayment. I will get you a damn good rate as well. You won't need a cosignor either, just be sure you can afford the payments. Hell, I can even get you a loan you couldn't afford but I'm not in the business of putting people into bankruptcy. Unfortunatly banks could care less. PM me if you have any questions.

If your credit score is good and you have income I can get you a mortgage with little to no downpayment. I will get you a damn good rate as well. You won't need a cosignor either, just be sure you can afford the payments. Hell, I can even get you a loan you couldn't afford but I'm not in the business of putting people into bankruptcy. Unfortunatly banks could care less. PM me if you have any questions.

Look, everybody I know is converting their basement or attic into an illegal rental unit.

Sorry, if the only way to stay in NJ requires me to let a transient sleep in my basement so I can afford to pay off my property taxes, no thanks. :cheers:

Look, everybody I know is converting their basement or attic into an illegal rental unit.

Sorry, if the only way to stay in NJ requires me to let a transient sleep in my basement so I can afford to pay off my property taxes, no thanks. :cheers:

HAHAHA

Hey Brenda, I'll buy both houses if that sweet mermaid on the boat comes with them ;):pimp:

WHATEVER you want handsome.....xxxxooo:rolleyes:

well im back from vacation and id like to chime in on this one....

Boozer (or was that max?)- what you say about the "bargain" thing is only partially true. it all depends on what the family income is. If your bringing in 100k+ a year, a 400-500k house makes sense so if you want to stay in NY?NJ then stay.
if however your bringing 50-60kish, the 400-500k house is a tough sell. If your making 30-40k, forget it.

A couple could move to texas and finance a new 100k house for under 1000 a month. thats value. as far as "jobs" are concerned, the people who move to texas would probably make about the same or just a tad less than what they had in NY. A couple making 35k could live nicely in that brand new 100k house. no matter what the job market is, any couple could make that 35k even in factory work.

Sure, if the guy making 125k wants to take advantage of that cheap texan home, he will probably make a heck of a lot less in texas so it wouldnt benefit him at all.

BUT, moving away from overpriced NE real estate for many people can be the best thing they will do. God bless you high rollers, but you guys are out of touch with what normal folks make. remember, the average family income in this country is around 24k.

JETMO- I feel your pain brother. moving for you is the best thing you can do. Not only for a house, but because its NICE to get away from the place you grew up in. A change of scenery kicks ass.
I know i sound a lot like Im a rich a hole at times but that becayuse i have expensive taste but a ****ty income. My one true failure in life is scoring the big income. All my friends are making 80-200k a year and I never broke 50k in my life. I guess in a way thats good because money is not that important to me. I like my free time and lack of stress. The only reason Im in really good shape is because about 9 years ago my mom was making good money and she saw me renting and there were houses out on LI that could be had for 100k. so, she helped me with the mortgage and 7 years later i sold that thing to my buddy for 250k. then, i come to florida and buy this increadible house for 180k that in 2-3 years became a 300k house and is bound to grow because people are moving here and its still an underpriced area.then, I bought the last 100k house in a good part of st petersburg for an investment. Im going to be building a summer place in croatia-again i luck out. my family owns a slew of land on a gorgeous island. I bought a townhouse in brasil for a mere 20k american. 40k will build me that little 1 BR summer home with a sea view (300 ft from the sea!)so with a touch of help early on and good luck with real estate, Im kicking ass with the ****tiest of incomes

Im totally into value. That house that brenda is hocking in toms river, i wouldnt let it be my dog house for 285k. that thing is mere shelter and nothing more. This friggin house i have has 20 foot vaulted ceilings, an exposed loft that overlooks the family room, a beautiful IG pool with a cage etc tetc. the development im in, you drive in past the security gates with your window sticker, there are cobble stones, lakes, 1M homes Im telling you its like beverly hills. every time i drive through I reflect on how gorgeous it is. No way do I rent out a basement in that toms river hellhole just to stay afloat.On top of that, instead of the trees being dead in february with sleet and slush, Im boating or at the beach.

So where is your house in Brasil? Mine is in a cute old beach town called Parati, about 1/2 between rio and sao paulo. You can get some sick SICK deals in brasil. I was just looking and saw a REALLY cute (what isnt cute in brasil?) house ON THE BEACH with an IG pool for 75k US. Sometimes, I really wonder if I should liquidate everything and just pay cash and grab that beach house and bum out for a while.


bottom line is that there is value to be had, and a nice house equates to nice living. if you cant get that where you are, MOVE. Youll love it when your dirtbiking on your 10 acres in VA

DK...

It wasn't me who commented on the income originally but I think you nailed it. If you are making a ton of cash here then it is all relative. The highter prices are within reach.

I have a friend who transferred to another state. Got a promotion out of it. Sold their house and made a killing. But a house for a decent amount less. And they have MORE disposable income now. They have no kids, so that is a no-brainer.

well im back from vacation and id like to chime in on this one....

Boozer (or was that max?)- what you say about the "bargain" thing is only partially true. it all depends on what the family income is. If your bringing in 100k+ a year, a 400-500k house makes sense so if you want to stay in NY?NJ then stay.
if however your bringing 50-60kish, the 400-500k house is a tough sell. If your making 30-40k, forget it.

A couple could move to texas and finance a new 100k house for under 1000 a month. thats value. as far as "jobs" are concerned, the people who move to texas would probably make about the same or just a tad less than what they had in NY. A couple making 35k could live nicely in that brand new 100k house. no matter what the job market is, any couple could make that 35k even in factory work.

Sure, if the guy making 125k wants to take advantage of that cheap texan home, he will probably make a heck of a lot less in texas so it wouldnt benefit him at all.

BUT, moving away from overpriced NE real estate for many people can be the best thing they will do. God bless you high rollers, but you guys are out of touch with what normal folks make. remember, the average family income in this country is around 24k.

JETMO- I feel your pain brother. moving for you is the best thing you can do. Not only for a house, but because its NICE to get away from the place you grew up in. A change of scenery kicks ass.
I know i sound a lot like Im a rich a hole at times but that becayuse i have expensive taste but a ****ty income. My one true failure in life is scoring the big income. All my friends are making 80-200k a year and I never broke 50k in my life. I guess in a way thats good because money is not that important to me. I like my free time and lack of stress. The only reason Im in really good shape is because about 9 years ago my mom was making good money and she saw me renting and there were houses out on LI that could be had for 100k. so, she helped me with the mortgage and 7 years later i sold that thing to my buddy for 250k. then, i come to florida and buy this increadible house for 180k that in 2-3 years became a 300k house and is bound to grow because people are moving here and its still an underpriced area.then, I bought the last 100k house in a good part of st petersburg for an investment. Im going to be building a summer place in croatia-again i luck out. my family owns a slew of land on a gorgeous island. I bought a townhouse in brasil for a mere 20k american. 40k will build me that little 1 BR summer home with a sea view (300 ft from the sea!)so with a touch of help early on and good luck with real estate, Im kicking ass with the ****tiest of incomes

Im totally into value. That house that brenda is hocking in toms river, i wouldnt let it be my dog house for 285k. that thing is mere shelter and nothing more. This friggin house i have has 20 foot vaulted ceilings, an exposed loft that overlooks the family room, a beautiful IG pool with a cage etc tetc. the development im in, you drive in past the security gates with your window sticker, there are cobble stones, lakes, 1M homes Im telling you its like beverly hills. every time i drive through I reflect on how gorgeous it is. No way do I rent out a basement in that toms river hellhole just to stay afloat.On top of that, instead of the trees being dead in february with sleet and slush, Im boating or at the beach.

So where is your house in Brasil? Mine is in a cute old beach town called Parati, about 1/2 between rio and sao paulo. You can get some sick SICK deals in brasil. I was just looking and saw a REALLY cute (what isnt cute in brasil?) house ON THE BEACH with an IG pool for 75k US. Sometimes, I really wonder if I should liquidate everything and just pay cash and grab that beach house and bum out for a while.


bottom line is that there is value to be had, and a nice house equates to nice living. if you cant get that where you are, MOVE. Youll love it when your dirtbiking on your 10 acres in VA
No doubt about it, you need a break to enter the market, and it's up to you to maximize on it from there.

I never got that break. Between '91-'98, I annually went to real estate agents, gave them the income/savings/debt owed info, they punched the numbers into the calculator and I was always a mere 4 or 5 grand away from getting a mortgage. My parents flat out refused to lend me the money. I'd be in good shape right now just off of the capital gains and tax breaks. And I would have paid my parents back double. Oh well. Cest le vie.

Anyway the last time I went to a realtor, I did qualify for a mortgage, but the price range would have put me in a shtty white trash town in south jersey. Then what? My neighbors would be section 8 transients, my kid would get bussed to some god forsaken horrible school, and my commute would be a 4 hr daily torture on the Garden State Parking lot. What a deal, huh?

The house in Brazil is in Ouro Preto.

The house in Brazil is in Ouro Preto.

oooh my wife says thats a real nice historic town in Minas. similar to parati.

Minas is the land of pan de queso, if you like them little cheesey bread balls.



Yes, you need to be in it to win it. capital gains is so wrong but so good to those who can take advantage of it. thanks ronny. the tax savings for a homeowner who doesnt make all too much is equally wrong, but im not complaining