1. Our infield defense is better than even we think. Youkilis has been a pleasant surprise. I always liked him, but his defense has been fine and he's certainly producing offensively. He's put together some great at bats. If he wasnt so short, he'd make every single play hit to 1st. He's like a young Johnny Olerud, except he doesnt wear his retard bus helmet at all times.

2. Wily Mo has really been producing, instead of swinging at everything letter -high...he is being ultra selective and spreading the ball all over the field.

3. Mike Lowell!!! AL starting 3rd baseman anyone?

4. Mark Loretta, the reincarnation of Bill Mueller?

5. Papelbon continues to roll!!!!!!

6. The Yankees have some gaping holes! They have defense issues, outfield depth issues, rotation issues, and possibly bullpen issues. Their bullpen is probably better than I first thought, but I smell a burnout coming!

Yankees outfield defense could be the worst in the majors, with or without Matsui and Sheff. And Posada-ugh!Wouldn't have made much difference, but Johnson's 2 wild ptiches were a joke.

Don't know why he brings Rivera into the game at all.

Based on starting pitching we've seen this series, the Sawx right now have the edge, and by a bunch.

One thing that's starting to really piss me off-enough with the A-rod bashing, Yankee fans. He's here for the long haul. He had a decent series. And if you're going to bash him for his fielding, then bash Derek "gets past a diving" Jeter for that error last night. Otherwise, support both.

1. Our infield defense is better than even we think. Youkilis has been a pleasant surprise. I always liked him, but his defense has been fine and he's certainly producing offensively. He's put together some great at bats. If he wasnt so short, he'd make every single play hit to 1st. He's like a young Johnny Olerud, except he doesnt wear his retard bus helmet at all times.

2. Wily Mo has really been producing, instead of swinging at everything letter -high...he is being ultra selective and spreading the ball all over the field.

3. Mike Lowell!!! AL starting 3rd baseman anyone?

4. Mark Loretta, the reincarnation of Bill Mueller?

5. Papelbon continues to roll!!!!!!

6. The Yankees have some gaping holes! They have defense issues, outfield depth issues, rotation issues, and possibly bullpen issues. Their bullpen is probably better than I first thought, but I smell a burnout coming!

It's ****ing May12th and you're making statements like it's September and the Yanks are 10 games out. Put down the pipe dude...baseball is a long season.

yankee starting rotation is relatively fine. Especially if Johnson ever gets back, which he will, although he won't be that "dominating" presence again. But he will still be an ace.

The pen is OK, although the faster Sturtze gets out of here, the better. Lost in last nights lose, was the fact that Proctor, and then Villone, both came in in tough situations, and did not allow an inherited runner to score.

If Williams catches that pop fly in the 7th, then the score is 3-2 in the 9th, with Mo coming in for the save. Looks a lot different atthat point, does it not?

Losing Matsui and Sheff will hurt big time in the long run. Yanks need to get production from all cylinders, including A-Rod and Posada. But this is still a talented team, so to consider them done is foolish.

It's ****ing May12th and you're making statements like it's September and the Yanks are 10 games out. Put down the pipe dude...baseball is a long season.

Let me give you an idea of JBF's MO.

Yankees lose he is all over the board
Yankees win he is no where to be found.
Still thinks of the Sox as "Ye Olde Team" eventhough that moniker went out about 3 years ago.

When the Yankees win the East basically tells everyone to suck his d!ck goes back to his rathole only to remerge again in April.

We have alot of fun with him. Especially when the Yankees win the end and his head basically explodes.

Let me give you an idea of JBF's MO.

Yankees lose he is all over the board
Yankees win he is no where to be found.
Still thinks of the Sox as "Ye Olde Team" eventhough that moniker went out about 3 years ago.

When the Yankees win the East basically tells everyone to suck his d!ck goes back to his rathole only to remerge again in April.

We have alot of fun with him. Especially when the Yankees win the end and his head basically explodes.

Short, sweet, and accurate description of JBF's M.O.:cheers:

And if you're going to bash him for his fielding, then bash Derek "gets past a diving" Jeter for that error last night. Otherwise, support both.


But it wasn't scored an error. Jeter is the best SS in MLB.

But it wasn't scored an error. Jeter is the best SS in MLB.

He is, though.

He is, though.

Barton? Is that you?

Complaining about Jeter's defense last night is picking straws.

Complaining about Jeter's defense last night is picking straws.

I'm not complaining, I was actually kind of happy with the Yankees defense as a whole.

That should have been an error on Jeter, though.

I'm not complaining, I was actually kind of happy with the Yankees defense as a whole.

That should have been an error on Jeter, though.

I guess. Bernie coast us the game though. How do you whiff on a pop up?

I guess. Bernie coast us the game though. How do you whiff on a pop up?

Hey, Bernie is 117 years old, the fact that he's out there without his walker and an O2 tank is amazing.

Jeter makes that play and you're out of that inning. Why Jeter gets a pass while A-Rod and Bernie are excoriated is beyond me.

Hey, Bernie is 117 years old, the fact that he's out there without his walker and an O2 tank is amazing.

Jeter makes that play and you're out of that inning. Why Jeter gets a pass while A-Rod and Bernie are excoriated is beyond me.

It was a tough play for Jeter. However, he got to the ball, and got off a strong throw, from his knees. Loretta is no speedster, but he is no slowpoke either. There was probably no time to get up, set, and throw. If he did, then 1 run scores, as Loretta beats the throw. Cairo really made a nice play to grab the throw, but caught it in the wrong spot of the glove. An experienced 1B probably makes the tag, and the inning is over.

But Bernie missed an easy one. He actually over-ran the pop. It almost reminded me of Manny, when he was in RF for the Tribe, during a playoff game. He climbed the wall for a fly ball. The ball dropped about 10-15 feet in front of him. It was quite funny.

Bernie did almost teh same thing. Very costly play. Villone should have been out of there easy, and Mo should have been pitching the 9th, protecting a 1 run lead.

Why the fans jump on A-Rod is beyond me. He is the best all around player in the game, bar no one.

Why the fans jump on A-Rod is beyond me. He is the best all around player in the game, bar no one.

I'll take Pujols, but that's me.

But it wasn't scored an error. Jeter is the best SS in MLB.

Hands down he is. He's won 2 gold gloves the past 2 years.

I'll take Pujols, but that's me.
Pujols is the best hitter in the game right now as his OPS shows but all around arod is a better player...

1. Our infield defense is better than even we think. Youkilis has been a pleasant surprise. I always liked him, but his defense has been fine and he's certainly producing offensively. He's put together some great at bats. If he wasnt so short, he'd make every single play hit to 1st. He's like a young Johnny Olerud, except he doesnt wear his retard bus helmet at all times.

2. Wily Mo has really been producing, instead of swinging at everything letter -high...he is being ultra selective and spreading the ball all over the field.

3. Mike Lowell!!! AL starting 3rd baseman anyone?

4. Mark Loretta, the reincarnation of Bill Mueller?

5. Papelbon continues to roll!!!!!!

6. The Yankees have some gaping holes! They have defense issues, outfield depth issues, rotation issues, and possibly bullpen issues. Their bullpen is probably better than I first thought, but I smell a burnout coming!
Yup...funny how things change....:Typotux:

In the end the Yankees always win.

The first post in this thread was from JBF, so everyone should have known that it would prove to be wrong.

And it was, once again.;)

So if Pujols is the better hitter, what great thing does Arod do better than him that makes him a better all-around player?
Pujols >>>> Arod.

So if Pujols is the better hitter, what great thing does Arod do better than him that makes him a better all-around player?
Pujols >>>> Arod.


Speed. And up until this season, Arod was a very good glove at 3rd base.

This year, so far, Pujols has Arod beat, by alot. But Arod is more of a 5 tool guy, while Pujols is a 4 tool guy, and there are plenty of 1st base sluggers in MLB. Not many 3rd basemans hit like Arod.

Speed. And up until this season, Arod was a very good glove at 3rd base.

This year, so far, Pujols has Arod beat, by alot. But Arod is more of a 5 tool guy, while Pujols is a 4 tool guy, and there are plenty of 1st base sluggers in MLB. Not many 3rd basemans hit like Arod.

Pujols is deceptively fast, as evidenced by his 16 steals last year.

Pujols > ARod

It's not even really close. Pujols is also a clutch player.

Pujols is deceptively fast, as evidenced by his 16 steals last year.

Pujols > ARod

It's not even really close. Pujols is also a clutch player.


No doubt. I'd rather have Pujols. I was just kinda trying to explain to sharrow why they say it. Arod is having a down year, but its still better than any other 3rd baseman in MLB, which is saying something.

I'll take Arod though, he's pretty good too! :)

As far as clutch, yes, Arod blew it after game 4. But I think he would have been the ALCS MVP should rivera did his job. And Arod was huge in the ALDS vs the twins. Pujols choked in the world series, didnt do shiat, but he has had alot of walk off homeruns and such in the regular season. Doesnt mean he could do it in new york, but I would take my chances with him anyday too.

Pujols also homered off Brad Lidge (which, interestingly enough ended his career) when St. Louis was down to their last out in the NLCS last year.

BTW, I don't know if I'd call Pujols' World Series performance a complete choke. He still hit .333, although his slugging percentage was quite pathetic. That whole team choked and it was glorious. **** the RedTurds.

Pujols is deceptively fast, as evidenced by his 16 steals last year.

Pujols > ARod

It's not even really close. Pujols is also a clutch player.

pujols is the best player in the game, nobody is going to argue that.


with that said, this subject was "5 tool". A-rod is a better base-stealer/base runner and has more defensive value due to playing 3rd base, depsite being horrible at it this year

BTW, I don't know if I'd call Pujols' World Series performance a complete choke. He still hit .333, although his slugging percentage was quite pathetic. That whole team choked and it was glorious. **** the RedTurds.

5/15, 2 doubles, a walk, no RBI, only one run


its better than anyone else on the squad did, but compared to his other playoff series I guess Pujols "underachieved"

Pujols also homered off Brad Lidge (which, interestingly enough ended his career) when St. Louis was down to their last out in the NLCS last year.

BTW, I don't know if I'd call Pujols' World Series performance a complete choke. He still hit .333, although his slugging percentage was quite pathetic. That whole team choked and it was glorious. **** the RedTurds.

I still can't figure out what happened to Lidge after that HR. How can a guy go from such heights to the depths he is in now??:confused:

And so fast.:confused:

It is called confidence.

It is what seperates the good from the great.

When you come in and blow people away the way Lidge had been doing and then that happens. Well you either go one of two ways.

1) You put it behind you and move on. (A la Mo, Goose, Fingers)
2) You start questioning yourself.

That is really all it is plain and simple. Lidge has yet to put that HR behind him.

Same thing with A-Rod. The talent is there for him to be possibly an all-time great but the constant booing, the pressure he puts on himself to come through everytime is eating away at his confidence.

He wants so badly to be perfect in a sport where you if you fail 7-10 times you can be in the HOF, that he can do is fail.

Pujols is almost as good of a defensive 3B as A-Rod is and he's never played a full season there. On the other hand, he's one of the best defensive 1B in the game. Sure its a little easier to find a 1B with power cause its not as hard to play 1B as 3B, but there are a lot of 3B who are very good offensive players too. Wright, Rolen, Cabrera, Glaus, Ramirez, Crede, Chipper, and soon Zimmerman and Encarnacion. Also, he's one of the most clutch hitters in the game, you will probably never see someone walk a guy to get to him, ever. If they do, they're an idiot. So I don't think 10 or 15 stolen bases a year makes up for the difference between the two. Pujols > Arod.

Pujols pretty much never strikes out either. It's not even a comparision.