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faba
05-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Derby winner Barbaro tops nine-horse Preakness field

Associated Press




BALTIMORE -- Kentucky Derby winner Barbaro tops a nine-horse field for Saturday's Preakness, the smallest for the second leg of the Triple Crown since 2000.
Most Preakness victories, by post positionsPPWinsLast time6 14 1999 (Charismatic) 7 12 2005 (Smarty Jones) 4 12 2000 (Red Bullet) 2 11 1986 (Snow Chief) 3 11 1993 (Prairie Bayou) 5 10 1976 (Elocutionist)
Nine 3-year-olds were entered Wednesday, with post position selections and morning-lines odds to be determined later in the day.
Unbeaten Barbaro, the winner of six straight races, will likely be the prohibitive favorite when he goes against Derby rivals Brother Derek (dead heat for fourth) and Sweetnorthernsaint (seventh) and six new shooters.
The others entered for the 1 3/16th-mile Preakness at Pimlico were Withers winner Bernardini, Gotham winner Like Now, Diabolical, Hemingway's Key, Greeley's Legacy and Platinum Couple.
If all nine start, it would be the smallest field since Red Bullet upset Derby winner Fusaichi Pegasus in an eight-horse field. Fusaichi Pegasus finished second as the 3-10 favorite.
With a small field, post positions aren't a major concern like they were in the Derby, when Brother Derek left from a far outside post -- No. 18 -- and was forced to run wide most of the race.
Afleet Alex won the Preakness in a full field of 14 3-year-olds last year. Derby winner Giacomo was third.
Preakness television coverage begins Saturday, May 20 at 5 p.m. ET on NBC Sports.

faba
05-17-2006, 03:29 PM
Barbaro is set up nice with a small field to contend with

T-Mac
05-17-2006, 03:57 PM
Barbaro is set up nice with a small field to contend withI'm betting another horse, but I can have you heavy hitters driving down my odds. faba was that you who sent Sweetnothersaint down 2 pegs, from 7-1 to 5-1 in the last fash?

joewilly
05-17-2006, 04:00 PM
anyone else amazed there are only 9 horses running? why?

faba, why don't you enter & ride smizzy

faba
05-17-2006, 04:01 PM
I'm betting another horse, but I can have you heavy hitters driving down my odds. faba was that you who sent Sweetnothersaint down 2 pegs, from 7-1 to 5-1 in the last fash?

T-Mac I practically never bet on favorites- I have to as a racing fan though hope to see another Triple Crown winner

faba
05-17-2006, 04:02 PM
anyone else amazed there are only 9 horses running? why?

faba, why don't you enter & ride smizzy

Good one joewilly-what odds you giving us? What if he breaks down -out to stud?

joewilly
05-17-2006, 04:06 PM
Good one joewilly-what odds you giving us? What if he breaks down -out to stud?

according to max, you won't get much on the stud market
:)

seriously, I have no clue how the money works in horseracing but wouldn't you think they'd be lining up to get into such a prestigous race??

T-Mac
05-17-2006, 05:23 PM
according to max, you won't get much on the stud market
:)

seriously, I have no clue how the money works in horseracing but wouldn't you think they'd be lining up to get into such a prestigous race??No, it's only worth $1M and the winner gets about half. It makes mores sense to run for $250,000 if you think you have chance to win. Now that Visa no longer awards a $5M bonus to any Triple Crown winner, the Derby winner still has the incentive of a huge stud career. Without the possibility of a TC winner, the alure is not as big for the other trainers. 9 is actually a decent size field for the Preakness. The Belmont will be about the same. After the TC is the possibilty of Horse Of The Year. This is normally won based on performances later in the year(fall) in races such as the Travers and Haskell.

joewilly
05-17-2006, 05:28 PM
thanks t-mac....... wouldn't stud fees go up on a horse that ran in a top 3 race? where is all the money made in horseracing? isn't it a wealthy sport?
i'm just curious

T-Mac
05-17-2006, 11:03 PM
thanks t-mac....... wouldn't stud fees go up on a horse that ran in a top 3 race? where is all the money made in horseracing? isn't it a wealthy sport?
i'm just curiousYeah, and a horse's stud value is worth more than what he can make on the track. This is why after the TC campaign, Barbaro will likely come down with a minor suspensory injury to justify retiring him to stud. Funny Cide is still running(albeit not very well) only because he's a gelding. Afleet Alex and Smarty Jones are probably healthy enough to race today, but they're making their owners more $$ doing what they're doing. The runner-ups in the Derby already have that "black-type." Now in the Preakness we see these newcomers who don't seem to have a prayer. They're not only in it for the purse, but a decent showing could enhance their stud career greatly. There will be more new faces in the Belmont. All they need is to get lucky in one big race. From there they make money getting laid. Sometimes I wish I were a Fusiachi Pegasus.

joewilly
05-18-2006, 10:00 AM
thanks t-mac, I appreciate the education. I can't imagine the entry fee is cheap either for such a race, but it would seem like pennies in the big picture. Of the 9 entries, any idea of how many horses will break even for running? any idea how the payout works/

T-Mac
05-18-2006, 03:03 PM
Break even? As of now I think Barbaro is "even money" in the morning line. The morning line is set by the track's public handicapper. The odds will move once the pool is open for betting. The horses getting the most action will pay the least odds because you have to divide the pool up that many more times. If you bet $100 on 1-1 odds, the payout is $200($100 for winning the bet + the amt you bet). If Brother Derek goes off at 5-2 and wins, your $100 will get you $350.

joewilly
05-18-2006, 03:38 PM
thanks t-mac, I understand the betting odds as a guy placing a bet at the window, i'm curious to the actual payout of the actual horses in the race.

does 1st place pay 1,000,000(or whatever the purse is)
does 2nd place pay $$ to the actual horse

I understand win place show for the betting guy, but how much are the 2nd,3rd 4th 5th (& so on) actual horses getting & where does any paycheck stop?

T-Mac
05-18-2006, 11:00 PM
The first horse gets roughly about half the purse, the second about half that, and so on till the 5th or 6th runner depending on the race. I'm pretty sure the Preakness pays up to #6.

joewilly
05-19-2006, 09:08 AM
cool, thanks

faba
05-19-2006, 09:27 AM
It costs lots of money to train /slash own horses. I know a couple of local people that own horses and they are money pits to own. The money as T-Mac explained is in the stud fees

faba
05-19-2006, 03:21 PM
OK state your picks here

For me Brother Derek gets a clean ride I think he is the one to beat-even though I will pull for a Barbaro to see a TC winner

joewilly
05-19-2006, 03:57 PM
barbaro looks tough to beat the way he ran the derby. should be fun to watch though. anyone know what time the coverage ends tomorrow. I'll tune in 15 minutes before the end & catch the race:)

T-Mac
05-20-2006, 10:12 AM
The race goes off about 6:14. Here are the curent odds. At 7-2 Brother Derek has my whole paycheck.

http://www.preakness.com/RacingInfo/Contenders.htm

Green Jets & Ham
05-20-2006, 11:04 AM
Anyone bet the second leg of the triple crown today?

If so, what did you bet?

I did a $20 exacta box {20 & 20} .. Barbaro/Bernadini, Bernadini/Barbaro :thumbup:

deadringer
05-20-2006, 11:13 AM
didnt bet on the race, but i do think that brother derek is going to take it...

Green Jets & Ham
05-20-2006, 11:24 AM
didnt bet on the race, but i do think that brother derek is going to take it...
OVER-RATED ... Over-Rated California bred

I've had to listen to his trainer, owner and jockey whine for two weeks about the bad trip they got in the derby and talk all kinds of trash about beating Barbaro in the Preakness, so I'm really looking forward to the beat-down Barbaro is laying on them again today

Jetcane
05-20-2006, 06:44 PM
Jeez. poor barbaro. I hope he survives this injury.

Looks like two fractures. Needs major surgery. Man. I am beyond upset. He's not out of the woods yet.

T-Mac
05-20-2006, 07:52 PM
OVER-RATED ... Over-Rated California bred
Good call, Ham. Normally the western division is boss but even most of those are Ky-bred. Nice pick on Bernardini, but even if he has the next Secretariat, there won't be a penny of my money on Skeikh Maktoum's horse. That was a VERY nice move, but I'll look elsewhere in the Belmont.

Green Jets & Ham
05-21-2006, 02:01 AM
Good call, Ham. Normally the western division is boss but even most of those are Ky-bred. Nice pick on Bernardini, but even if he has the next Secretariat, there won't be a penny of my money on Skeikh Maktoum's horse. That was a VERY nice move, but I'll look elsewhere in the Belmont.
Thanks TMac ... I had the right idea, probably had that exacta IN THE BAG, but sadly Barbaro broke down physically and now I Just hope the horse is okay ... what a crying shame ... shades of Ruffian :sad:

faba
05-21-2006, 09:46 AM
Terrible thing to see with Barbaro-only hope they can save him with the fractured leg

Alk
07-12-2006, 05:25 PM
Just an update on Barbaro. Things aren't looking too good.

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/5777200?FSO1&ATT=HMA?GT1=8393

SouthernJet
07-12-2006, 05:26 PM
Just an update on Barbaro. Things aren't looking too good.

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/5777200?FSO1&ATT=HMA?GT1=8393
ya looks bad,,
I hear the ALPO folks are circling the paddock like vultures

Alk
07-13-2006, 02:57 PM
Things are looking even worse now.

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/5779052?FSO1&ATT=HMA

SouthernJet
07-13-2006, 02:59 PM
Things are looking even worse now.

http://msn.foxsports.com/horseracing/story/5779052?FSO1&ATT=HMA
ya i saw,,
shame,,
do u think they have some of his juice on ice?

Alk
07-13-2006, 03:06 PM
ya i saw,,
shame,,
do u think they have some of his juice on ice?

I was actually thinking the same thing. If they don't, they need to get on that like now.

SouthernJet
07-13-2006, 03:07 PM
I was actually thinking the same thing. If they don't, they need to get on that like now.
I agree,, is there any PlayMare magazines out there?

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