View Full Version : Yankees select RHP Ian Kennedy with 1st round pick


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06-06-2006, 02:06 PM
http://usctrojans.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/kennedy_ian00.html

Max
06-06-2006, 02:36 PM
This guy is the real deal. No way would I trade him for Zito!

Green Jets & Ham
06-06-2006, 02:41 PM
This guy is the real deal. No way would I trade him for Zito!
:lol:

Scott Dierking
06-06-2006, 02:52 PM
This guy is the real deal. No way would I trade him for Zito!

How is Brien Taylor progressing? Is he currently trade bait?

Mavrik
06-06-2006, 03:09 PM
I'm waiting for the GJ&H post where he describes in a thesis how this is the greatest Yankees draft pick ever. reminescent of Mantle and Dimaggo, and that this pick will solidify at least 8 yankee championships over the next 10 years. :character42:

Thor99
06-06-2006, 04:19 PM
I'm waiting for the GJ&H post where he describes in a thesis how this is the greatest Yankees draft pick ever. reminescent of Mantle and Dimaggo, and that this pick will solidify at least 8 yankee championships over the next 10 years. :character42:


Ham doesn't go overboard. You know that.

toon88
06-06-2006, 04:46 PM
This guy is the real deal. No way would I trade him for Zito!


how 'bout for Victor Zambrano? :p

Mavrik
06-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Ham doesn't go overboard. You know that.



Whatever you say, Chief.

Max
06-06-2006, 09:02 PM
How is Brien Taylor progressing? Is he currently trade bait?

That was good Scott. Let's not lose focus here. This can be fun.

I think this new draft pick and a FA Kazmir will really win a lot in the Bronx!

mbn007
06-07-2006, 08:52 AM
Kennedy and Chamberlain, the supplemental #1 round pick, were both top 20 players going into this recent College Baseball season. I am not very familiar with these draftess, and only have what I can read, and a few videos that I have seen (google).

But hopefully most of these guys play in Staten Island for part of the season, so i can get over there and see them in person. Then one can judge them more accurately.

Scott Dierking
06-07-2006, 10:32 AM
That was good Scott. Let's not lose focus here. This can be fun.

I think this new draft pick and a FA Kazmir will really win a lot in the Bronx!


Nah, Kazmir won't be a free-agent signing for the Yankees. They focus on types of players as FA pitchers:

a). Over the hill pitchers whose best years are clearly behind them, but have name recognition,

or

b). Pitchers that have that one remarkable contract year, that the Yankees somehow figure he will be able to project for the rest of his career, although history proves otherwise.

Kazmir won't fit either of those scenarios.

mbn007
06-07-2006, 10:35 AM
Nah, Kazmir won't be a free-agent signing for the Yankees. They focus on types of players as FA pitchers:

a). Over the hill pitchers whose best years are clearly behind them, but have name recognition,

or

b). Pitchers that have that one remarkable contract year, that the Yankees somehow figure he will be able to project for the rest of his career, although history proves otherwise.

Kazmir won't fit either of those scenarios.

If Brian is truly in charge, this philosophy will change over the year's to come, and more focus will be on the kids form the Minors. As we see with Wang, Cano, Phillips and Melky, they can play major roles for the Yankees.

Max
06-07-2006, 11:07 AM
a). Over the hill pitchers whose best years are clearly behind them, but have name recognition,

You are right. What a mistake it has been signing\trading for:
Jimmy Key
David Cone
Orlando Hernandez
David Wells
Roger Clemens

Add up those rings!!!

The Big Unit has been a mistake. But the WS victory this year will make up for it.


b). Pitchers that have that one remarkable contract year, that the Yankees somehow figure he will be able to project for the rest of his career, although history proves otherwise.

Contreas was in a contract year in Cuba? In Cuba do they call it your walk year or your float year?

Jeff Weaver had a few good years. He looked like an ace. It didn't work out.

Kevin Brown was a mistake. But it was a compound mistake. A mistake that they made worse.

All things considered...the Yankees gameplan over the past 10 years has paid off pretty well.

GREENSMACKS
06-07-2006, 11:52 AM
yea the yanks draft a dude named after a star war charactor haa haa haas

mbn007
06-07-2006, 12:13 PM
yea the yanks draft a dude named after a star war charactor haa haa haas

I don't care if he's named after dog feces, as long as he can pitch.

Thor99
06-07-2006, 12:59 PM
All things considered...the Yankees gameplan over the past 10 years has paid off pretty well.

How's that been working out over the last 5 years?

madmike1
06-07-2006, 02:35 PM
How is Brien Taylor progressing? Is he currently trade bait?
hows phil hughes doing by the way?

mbn007
06-07-2006, 04:39 PM
hows phil hughes doing by the way?

His turn in the AA rotation was rained out today.

He is having a tough time in AA, but he is younger than almost everyone else up there. Hi slast game was a disaster, but he was OK on average the first several since he was promoted from High "A" in early May.

madmike1
06-07-2006, 08:47 PM
His turn in the AA rotation was rained out today.

He is having a tough time in AA, but he is younger than almost everyone else up there. Hi slast game was a disaster, but he was OK on average the first several since he was promoted from High "A" in early May.
i was being sarcastic to the idiots who say the yankees never draft good players. hughes is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball.

mbn007
06-08-2006, 08:15 AM
i was being sarcastic to the idiots who say the yankees never draft good players. hughes is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball.

No harm no foul.

I figured as much. But it was also an opportunity to toss in some info on how he actually is doing right now.

Scott Dierking
06-08-2006, 08:20 AM
i was being sarcastic to the idiots who say the yankees never draft good players. hughes is one of the best pitching prospects in baseball.

While I have not made the statement that the Yankees farm system is not worth its mettle in producing players, I would not exactly want to use the evidence of one Phillip Hughes as it being a boon, either.

mbn007
06-08-2006, 08:22 AM
While I have not made the statement that the Yankees farm system is not worth its mettle in producing players, I would not exactly want to use the evidence of one Phillip Hughes as it being a boon, either.

It is not a boon. But it is far better than what the local media tends to believe and pontificate.

Scott Dierking
06-08-2006, 08:32 AM
It is not a boon. But it is far better than what the local media tends to believe and pontificate.

MBN-They have provided a short term bandaid for what ails the team during a difficult stretch. Whether they will be able to continue that support over a longer stretch remains to be seen, I would not bet against them.

You cannnot ask for anything more from a farm system.

Well, you could have some 5 tool players evolve from it, but that is coming from the other Borough.

mbn007
06-08-2006, 10:43 AM
MBN-They have provided a short term bandaid for what ails the team during a difficult stretch. Whether they will be able to continue that support over a longer stretch remains to be seen, I would not bet against them.

You cannnot ask for anything more from a farm system.

Well, you could have some 5 tool players evolve from it, but that is coming from the other Borough.

The only 5 tool guy I see in teh NY Mets ML org. is Lastings.

In the Yankees there are 2 who are excelling now. But both are in the lower levels. Tabata and Jackson. The best in terms of ability from either organization is a guy named Tim Battle. He's in teh Yankees Lower A entry, in Charleston in the Sally League.But he has serious strikeout issues. And I mean serious. But he can throw on a line from the deepest recesses in RCF or LCF, to Home Plate. He has excellent speed and runs down many a pitcher's mistake in the power alleys. He has power to hit booming HRS. He stole 40 bases last season.

But he strikes out 40%+ of the time. And this causes him to have low batting averages. If he ever gets the hang of it, watch out. He will be great. But right now, he does not hit nearly enough.

Scott Dierking
06-08-2006, 10:49 AM
The only 5 tool guy I see in teh NY Mets ML org. is Lastings.

In the Yankees there are 2 who are excelling now. But both are in the lower levels. Tabata and Jackson. The best in terms of ability from either organization is a guy named Tim Battle. He's in teh Yankees Lower A entry, in Charleston in the Sally League.But he has serious strikeout issues. And I mean serious. But he can throw on a line from the deepest recesses in RCF or LCF, to Home Plate. He has excellent speed and runs down many a pitcher's mistake in the power alleys. He has power to hit booming HRS. He stole 40 bases last season.

But he strikes out 40%+ of the time. And this causes him to have low batting averages. If he ever gets the hang of it, watch out. He will be great. But right now, he does not hit nearly enough.

I am also including recent graduates from teh Minor systems-Meaning along with milledge, Reyes and Wright, I realize it is probably a stretch to call Wright a 5-tooler, but he is close.

Compared to what teh Mets system had become, those are outstanding results.

Right now, the Dodgers and Diamondback systems are 2 systems that appear most loaded (I am not familiar with most of the AL systems).

Projecting these players though, is near impossible.

mbn007
06-08-2006, 10:52 AM
I am also including recent graduates from teh Minor systems-Meaning along with milledge, Reyes and Wright, I realize it is probably a stretch to call Wright a 5-tooler, but he is close.

Compared to what teh Mets system had become, those are outstanding results.

Right now, the Dodgers and Diamondback systems are 2 systems that appear most loaded (I am not familiar with most of the AL systems).

Projecting these players though, is near impossible.

Dodgers, D'Backs, Brewers, Angels and Devil Rays have the best systems in Baseball. Not in that orde, but they are top 5.

Reyes does not hit for enough power or average to be considered 5 tools. Wright would be a better example, but his speed is not up there. Neither is his glove, although he is at least average for his position.

5 Tools = Hit, Hit with Power, Run, Field, Throw.

GimmeShelter
06-08-2006, 10:55 AM
I am also including recent graduates from teh Minor systems-Meaning along with milledge, Reyes and Wright, I realize it is probably a stretch to call Wright a 5-tooler, but he is close.

Compared to what teh Mets system had become, those are outstanding results.

Right now, the Dodgers and Diamondback systems are 2 systems that appear most loaded (I am not familiar with most of the AL systems).

Projecting these players though, is near impossible.

Angels and DRays would be two of the stronger if not strongest AL systems. You are correct on the NL and the DBacks are especially strong. If they stay in contention they have both the salary room and the blue chip prospects to make any move they choose at the deadline.

As for Wright he will develop into a better defensive player through hard work just as Jeter did making him a bonafide 5 tool player.

mbn007
06-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Angels and DRays would be two of the stronger if not strongest AL systems. You are correct on the NL and the DBacks are especially strong. If they stay in contention they have both the salary room and the blue chip prospects to make any move they choose at the deadline.

As for Wright he will develop into a better defensive player through hard work just as Jeter did making him a bonafide 5 tool player.

Just remember that a 5 Tool player means nothing. Alex Ochoa anyone?;)

You still have to produce, and do it over the long term. Jeter is a good example.

GimmeShelter
06-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Dodgers, D'Backs, Brewers, Angels and Devil Rays have the best systems in Baseball. Not in that orde, but they are top 5.

Reyes does not hit for enough power or average to be considered 5 tools. Wright would be a better example, but his speed is not up there. Neither is his glove, although he is at least average for his position.

5 Tools = Hit, Hit with Power, Run, Field, Throw.

Wright steals enough bases.

GimmeShelter
06-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Just remember that a 5 Tool player means nothing. Alex Ochoa anyone?;)

You still have to produce, and do it over the long term. Jeter is a good example.

You betting against Wright?
Didn't think so. Wright already offensively is a better player than Jeter.

Thor99
06-08-2006, 11:26 AM
Apparently, there's a small mutiny on the D-Rays hands.

There is a lot of bitching coming from AAA Durham, about how the big team is stinking it up, and all these can't miss prospects are not being called up.

The Bulls manager is too busy trying to land a job in the majors, and he's letting the players run things.

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