Jeter leading vote-getter for All-Star Game

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NEW YORK -- [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=nyy"]New York Yankees (http://log.go.com/log?srvc=sz&guid=981020CD-7C29-49B5-A57F-C59D20DC1514&drop=0&addata=1332:53574:236292:65&a=1&goto=http://mobile.espn.go.com/See-It.html?campaign=mobile&source=ESPN_ROS_146x46_BasketballFathersDayHookUpD ad) shortstop Derek Jeter (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5406) is the leading vote-getter in Tuesday's latest American League All-Star voting.
Jeter has received 765,110 votes for the 77th All-Star Game, to be played July 11 at Pittsburgh's PNC Park. A six-time All-Star, Jeter is batting .344 with five home runs and 41 RBI.
Los Angeles Angels (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/clubhouse?team=laa) of Anaheim right fielder Vladimir Guerrero (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5737) is a close overall second to Jeter with 745,397 votes.
Jeter's New York infield teammates Alex Rodriguez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5275) and Robinson Cano are also in line to start. The reigning league MVP, Rodriguez holds a huge lead among third basemen with 731,811 votes. Cano has 404,416 votes and owns a 36,190-vote lead over Boston's Mark Loretta (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5504) for the starting second base spot.
Red Sox slugger David Ortiz (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5909) rounds out the infield leaders with 631,787 votes. He owns a commanding lead of over 198,000 votes over New York's Jason Giambi (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5386) for the start at first base.
Joining Guerrero among the leading outfield vote-getters are Boston's Manny Ramirez (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5132) (738,168) and New York's Johnny Damon (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5484) (529,770).
Red Sox captain Jason Varitek (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=5921) leads 12-time All-Star Ivan Rodriguez for the starting catcher spot. Varitek has 448,894 votes to Rodriguez's 398,852.

Stupid sox fans voting for Vaginatek.

Posada us having a much better year, so is Joe Mauer. Actually, Varitek is stinking it up, he sucks.

Cmon Ortiz...sit this one out. We need an all NY Yankees infield! With Moose starting! And Damon in CF.

Do I hear ballot stuffing?

Is this being played in an NL ballpark?

Do I hear ballot stuffing?



I second that notion.

Stupid sox fans voting for Vaginatek.

Posada us having a much better year, so is Joe Mauer. Actually, Varitek is stinking it up, he sucks.

A much better year? 6 more hits, 2 more homers, and 5 more RBI. I don't see how that's a much better year. He is however hitting 50 points higher. That's 6 more hits in 7 less at bats. Hardly much better.

That said, neither belong in the ASG, it should be Hernandez and Mauer.

And Cano certainly doesn't deserve it over Loretta.

I love Jorge but I'd put Hernandez and Mauer in before I'd put him in this season.

Posada, Varitek and Pudge miss out.

AL Starting Defensive Lineup:

1B - Ortiz
2B - Cano
SS - Jeter
3B - ARod
LF - Manny
CF - Damon
RF - Vlad
C - Varitek
P - Mussina maybe??

Wow would that be something funny.

Yankees fans will laugh at this, but Mike Lowell deserves the be starting 3rd baseman more than A-Rod.

Yankees fans will laugh at this, but Mike Lowell deserves the be starting 3rd baseman more than A-Rod.

LOL!!!:rl: :character41: :lol:

A much better year? 6 more hits, 2 more homers, and 5 more RBI. I don't see how that's a much better year. He is however hitting 50 points higher. That's 6 more hits in 7 less at bats. Hardly much better.

That said, neither belong in the ASG, it should be Hernandez and Mauer.

And Cano certainly doesn't deserve it over Loretta.

Cano... .310 65 Hits 22 RBI 5 errors
Loretta .300 67 Hits 27 RBI 2 errors


Look pretty damn even to me...

Yankees fans will laugh at this, but Mike Lowell deserves the be starting 3rd baseman more than A-Rod.

Red Sox fans will laugh at that too. That said there are a number of 3rd basemen who deserve to go, if not start.

Arod .293 13 homers 49 runs 44 rbi 37bb 47k 10e
Glaus .267 17homers 46 runs 45 rbi 31bb 45k 5e
Lowell .327 7homers 29 runs 31 rbi 16bb 17k 4e

Casey Blake also belongs in that discussion.

Cano... .310 65 Hits 22 RBI 5 errors
Loretta .300 67 Hits 27 RBI 2 errors


Look pretty damn even to me...

I looked at the numbers again, and I agree with you. The numbers are pretty close. However, Loretta has him beat in every category except for Average (by .010) and runs scored (by 2).

LOL!!!:rl: :character41: :lol:

Lowell: .327 AVG .940 OPS 7 HR 31 RBI 23 2Bs 17 Ks 4 Errors and GG calibur defense
A-Rod: .294 AVG .936 OPS 13 HR 44 RBI 8 2Bs 47 Ks 10 Errors and slowly becoming a mediocre defender

I rest my case. No further questions!

I think Jorge Posada is being overlooked... He's fighting injury to have one of his finest starts as a yank

Lowell: .327 AVG .940 OPS 7 HR 31 RBI 23 2Bs 17 Ks 4 Errors and GG calibur defense
A-Rod: .294 AVG .936 OPS 13 HR 44 RBI 8 2Bs 47 Ks 10 Errors and slowly becoming a mediocre defender

I rest my case. No further questions!



By golly, CrazyCarl just shut up the Yankee fans. Who whoulda thunk it?

Red Sox fans will laugh at that too. That said there are a number of 3rd basemen who deserve to go, if not start.

Arod .293 13 homers 49 runs 44 rbi 37bb 47k 10e
Glaus .267 17homers 46 runs 45 rbi 31bb 45k 5e
Lowell .327 7homers 29 runs 31 rbi 16bb 17k 4e

Casey Blake also belongs in that discussion.

I can see the argument for Lowell over A-Rod, based on average and errors. But the fact remains that HR and RBI numbers play a bigger factor in fans voting over any other numbers, especially at 1B, 3B and the OF.

Both will be there though.

I can see the argument for Lowell over A-Rod, based on average and errors. But the fact remains that HR and RBI numbers play a bigger factor in fans voting over any other numbers, especially at 1B, 3B and the OF.

Both will be there though.

HR and RBIs should be a factor but not the biggest factor. The biggest factor is something my brother, a Yankees fan said. He knows who Mike Lowell is but the average casual fan voting in this has no clue but they know exactly who A-Rod is. It's a popularity contest and should be voted on by a different system, that much is clear.

HR and RBIs should be a factor but not the biggest factor. The biggest factor is something my brother, a Yankees fan said. He knows who Mike Lowell is but the average casual fan voting in this has no clue but they know exactly who A-Rod is. It's a popularity contest and should be voted on by a different system, that much is clear.

Many things in Baseball are based on popularity and reputation. Brooks Robinson won GG after GG at 3B for the Orioles even when he no longer deserved them in his mid-30s. Nettles was a far superior fielder. But until Nettles put on a clinic in the WS, no one knew about him.

The average voter bases his/her vote on HRs and RBIs. Those are the "sexy" stats.

I can see the argument for Lowell over A-Rod, based on average and errors. But the fact remains that HR and RBI numbers play a bigger factor in fans voting over any other numbers, especially at 1B, 3B and the OF.

Both will be there though.



His argument was not "who would start", but who DESERVES to start. By the numbers, Lowell has a very legit argument.

By golly, CrazyCarl just shut up the Yankee fans. Who whoulda thunk it?

Shut who up? Those stats show A-Rod with significantly more production than Lowell, but I guess homeruns and rbi's aren't that important, being a slap hitter with a higher average is much better.

All I've got to say is that if Mike Lowell can't known Youk/Crisp/Loretta/Veritek out of the top 6 in the Red Sawx lineup, there's no way he's going to knock A-god out of the clean-up slot on the All-star team

All I've got to say is that if Mike Lowell can't known Youk/Crisp/Loretta/Veritek out of the top 6 in the Red Sawx lineup, there's no way he's going to knock A-god out of the clean-up slot on the All-star team

All I've got to say is that that is more because of Francoma than Lowell's play.

Here is how I would do it.

Youkilis
Crisp
Ortiz
Manny
Nixon
Lowell
Varitek
Loretta
Gonzalez

Shut who up? Those stats show A-Rod with significantly more production than Lowell, but I guess homeruns and rbi's aren't that important, being a slap hitter with a higher average is much better.



It seems to me that Lowell the "slap hitter" has the higher OPS. Please explain.

All I've got to say is that that is more because of Francoma than Lowell's play.

Here is how I would do it.

Youkilis
Crisp
Ortiz
Manny
Nixon
Lowell
Varitek
Loretta
Gonzalez

Crisp is not a #2 hitter at all. He is either leadoff, or near the bottom. Switch Loretta and Crisp and you've got it.

Yankees fans will laugh at this, but Mike Lowell deserves the be starting 3rd baseman more than A-Rod.

yeah, you pretty much lost all credibility when it comes to baseball conversations now.

Is this being played in an NL ballpark?PNC in Pittsburgh.

yeah, you pretty much lost all credibility when it comes to baseball conversations now.

Right. That is why a lot more people agree with me than disagree with me. Look at the numbers. A-Rod has 11 errors now. He had 13 all of last year? Defensively Lowell is head and shoulders above A-Rod and it is a lot close offensively than one would imagine. Lowell deserves it. Will he start? No, because it's a popularity contest. Although from the way New York fans talk about A-Rod, one would think he would be down near the bottom.

yeah, you pretty much lost all credibility when it comes to baseball conversations now.



Except that Lowell has a higher OPS and more clutch hits this season. Again, I ask you Yankee fans to explain this fact away.

Never thought I'd say this, but Mike Lowell should start. Arod currently looks lost.

The "what can we possibly do with Arod" rumors will be starting soon. The exit from NY is not going to be pretty.