what a perfect time. All-Star game. in Pittsburgh...honoring Roberto Clemente with his family there....RETIRE #21 ACROSS THE LEAGUE. The man was a GOD to all latino's at the time and now. He didn't go through what Jackie Robinson had to go through, but he was just as inspirational to his race. All latino baseball players then and now, all recognize what he did, it would have been a great moment in baseball if Selig would have unvailed #21 retired throughout the league.

Agree. With all the scandal of cheating and drugs stinking the sport up, that kind of gesture would have been the perfect tonic.

toon...good post. You should be the next commish. You care more about the game than they do!

When toon makes a solid post i sit in my room and croon..... TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON




That whole thing rhymed.

what a perfect time. All-Star game. in Pittsburgh...honoring Roberto Clemente with his family there....RETIRE #21 ACROSS THE LEAGUE. The man was a GOD to all latino's at the time and now. He didn't go through what Jackie Robinson had to go through, but he was just as inspirational to his race. All latino baseball players then and now, all recognize what he did, it would have been a great moment in baseball if Selig would have unvailed #21 retired throughout the league.

so if blacks and latin americans can have a player's number retired, why can't italians, germans, frenchies, native americans, asians, mullato's and all other races have a player's number retired?

If this guy hadn't died we wouldn't be talking about retiring his number throughout the league. He wasn't a world changer for the game. Jackie Robinson was and deserves it, Clemente does not.

If this guy hadn't died we wouldn't be talking about retiring his number throughout the league. He wasn't a world changer for the game. Jackie Robinson was and deserves it, Clemente does not.

The only 2 people who changed the game enough to even have themselves considered for their numbers being retired are Jackie and the Babe.

and if Babe's hasnt been retired, then nobody else's should be in the future.

The only 2 people who changed the game enough to even have themselves considered for their numbers being retired are Jackie and the Babe.

and if Babe's hasnt been retired, then nobody else's should be in the future.


Agreed.

#3 should be retired, don't understand why it's not.

so if blacks and latin americans can have a player's number retired, why can't italians, germans, frenchies, native americans, asians, mullato's and all other races have a player's number retired?

Oh crap, I am agreeing with blackout.

Clemente was an inspiration to everybody for his humanitarian efforts, but he does noit transcend the sport like Jackie Robinson.

There is only one number that should be retired across all of baseball. That is Jackie Robinson's. HIs legacy impacts baseball today. No one else even comes close to having the same impact. Not Babe Ruth or Roberto Clemente.

Oh crap, I am agreeing with blackout.

Clemente was an inspiration to everybody for his humanitarian efforts, but he does noit transcend the sport like Jackie Robinson.

There is only one number that should be retired across all of baseball. That is Jackie Robinson's. HIs legacy impacts baseball today. No one else even comes close to having the same impact. Not Babe Ruth or Roberto Clemente.

but without the Babe's influence there would be no boring, over-hyped home run derby ;)

I don't think MLB should go around retiring the number of every great player who was also a nice guy. Clemente was wonderful. Put him in the hall, give him a day, have a tribute, but if any additional number should be retired it's #3 and thats it. Forget the "house that Ruth built", it should be "the game that Ruth built"

I don't think MLB should go around retiring the number of every great player who was also a nice guy. Clemente was wonderful. Put him in the hall, give him a day, have a tribute, but if any additional number should be retired it's #3 and thats it. Forget the "house that Ruth built", it should be "the game that Ruth built"

I think MLB did a fine job with it last night.

When Clemente passed away after the 1972 MLB waived the 5 year rule and put him in the HOF and if you saw Ozzie Guillen reaction last night during the ceremony I think you understand what Clemente means the hispanic community. He is their Jackie Robinson.

I think MLB did a fine job with it last night.

When Clemente passed away after the 1972 MLB waived the 5 year rule and put him in the HOF and if you saw Ozzie Guillen reaction last night during the ceremony I think you understand what Clemente means the hispanic community. He is their Jackie Robinson.


and do you know what Dimaggio meant to the italian community, and what Ichiro means to the Japanese community? or Jason Bay to the canucks?

and do you know what Dimaggio meant to the italian community, and what Ichiro means to the Japanese community? or Jason Bay to the canucks?

You are mistaken race for nationality.

I don't think personally that 21 should be retired but you cannot deny what Clemente did on and off the field. Like I said Clemente to the Domenicans, Puerto Ricans, Venezuelans are what Robinson was to the African-Americans, a trailblazer, a leader and most importantly a hero.

I don't think MLB should go around retiring the number of every great player who was also a nice guy. Clemente was wonderful. Put him in the hall, give him a day, have a tribute, but if any additional number should be retired it's #3 and thats it. Forget the "house that Ruth built", it should be "the game that Ruth built"

Oh pppppuuhhhhhllllleeeeeaasssseeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruth did not build $hit.

Let's not make Ruth to be some Bird/Magic/Jordan rescuer of a league. He was larger then life and was the face of baseball, but baseball was 40 years old by the time he joined and somehow managed to survive a World War without him. Other then prooven Dean Wormer wrong that you can be fat drunk and stupid, his impact on anything outside the record book was minimal.

Plus, it fails the common sense rule. Do you think the Jazz or Cavliers want to retire Jordan's number? He was the greatest. The Cowboys or any NFC team want to retire Montana's number? I am sure Los Angeles Rams fans would be estatic over that ceremony.

Clemente deserves consideration for such an honor and if he was the first latin born player, he would probably merit it. However, Latin players had been a part of the game since 1902. Luis Castro crossed that line and about a decade later, latin players started being seen more and more. He needs an honor of some kind, but not a universal retirement of his number.

http://latinobaseball.com/mlb-hcountry.html

Jackie Robinson faced far more scrutiny and downright venom when he put on #42. In a way, his path to the major leagues and through his career, made every non-white players existence today a little better. That is why #42 is retired across the boad.

Oh pppppuuhhhhhllllleeeeeaasssseeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ruth did not build $hit.

Let's not make Ruth to be some Bird/Magic/Jordan rescuer of a league. He was larger then life and was the face of baseball, but baseball was 40 years old by the time he joined and somehow managed to survive a World War without him. Other then prooven Dean Wormer wrong that you can be fat drunk and stupid, his impact on anything outside the record book was minimal.

Plus, it fails the common sense rule. Do you think the Jazz or Cavliers want to retire Jordan's number? He was the greatest. The Cowboys or any NFC team want to retire Montana's number? I am sure Los Angeles Rams fans would be estatic over that ceremony.

Clemente deserves consideration for such an honor and if he was the first latin born player, he would probably merit it. However, Latin players had been a part of the game since 1902. Luis Castro crossed that line and about a decade later, latin players started being seen more and more. He needs an honor of some kind, but not a universal retirement of his number.

http://latinobaseball.com/mlb-hcountry.html

Jackie Robinson faced far more scrutiny and downright venom when he put on #42. In a way, his path to the major leagues and through his career, made every non-white players existence today a little better. That is why #42 is retired across the boad.

Ruth took the game to a level it had never seen before and accomplished things that ENTIRE TEAMS were not capable of. He was arguably the most well known person on the planet because of what he could do on the baseball field. Don't let the fact that he was a Yankee stop you from being able to see what he did for the game. And for the record, I don't want to see the guys number retired around MLB. Having it retired as a Yankee is good enough IMO. I say leave Robinson as the only retired number around baseball and move on.