The fire under their overpaid asses lasted exactly nine innings.

Except for Jetes, Sheff, and Gojira, this team has absolutely no heart.

The fire under their overpaid asses lasted exactly nine innings.

Except for Jetes, Sheff, and Gojira, this team has absolutely no heart.


Not to mention gutless and selfish. Just pitiful. Hey, big Mets game coming up!

The fire under their overpaid asses lasted exactly nine innings.

Except for Jetes, Sheff, and Gojira, this team has absolutely no heart.


Not to mention gutless and selfish. Just pitiful. Hey, big Mets game coming up!

Don't even get me started on the Mets. Big Mets game is an oxymoron.

"I ain't no ox-moron!" 10 points for the source of that quote.

Orioles will win the East by 10 games.

Blazing Saddles?

Orioles will win the East by 10 games.

Blazing Saddles?

Try again. With both statements.

Orioles don't have the pitching, or enough left handed bats to keep in going all year.

Orioles will win the East by 10 games.

Blazing Saddles?

Try again. With both statements.

Orioles don't have the pitching, or enough left handed bats to keep in going all year.


O's can score runs with anybody and Angelos, if the Yanks keep slipping into May, will make serious moves. Plus, they have alot of young pitchers they can dip into for it.


National Lampoon's Vacation? Gimme a hint

Orioles will win the East by 10 games.

Blazing Saddles?

Try again. With both statements.

Orioles don't have the pitching, or enough left handed bats to keep in going all year.


O's can score runs with anybody and Angelos, if the Yanks keep slipping into May, will make serious moves. Plus, they have alot of young pitchers they can dip into for it.


National Lampoon's Vacation? Gimme a hint

Absolutely, it looks like they're going after Helton.

It's a movie starring a cast member from Taxi. (The TV show, not the crappy Fallon/Letifah vehicle.

The fire under their overpaid asses lasted exactly nine innings.

Except for Jetes, Sheff, and Gojira, this team has absolutely no heart.


Not to mention gutless and selfish. Just pitiful. Hey, big Mets game coming up!

Don't even get me started on the Mets. Big Mets game is an oxymoron.

"I ain't no ox-moron!" 10 points for the source of that quote.


No help needed...its from "Renaissance Man" starring Mr. Danny DeVito.


Youre talkin' to the world (OK, the UMass) champion of the Kevin Bacon Game

sorry if it was not open to the public...but thats what PMs are for

Peter O'Toole

The fire under their overpaid asses lasted exactly nine innings.

Except for Jetes, Sheff, and Gojira, this team has absolutely no heart.


Not to mention gutless and selfish. Just pitiful. Hey, big Mets game coming up!

Don't even get me started on the Mets. Big Mets game is an oxymoron.

"I ain't no ox-moron!" 10 points for the source of that quote.


No help needed...its from "Renaissance Man" starring Mr. Danny DeVito.


Youre talkin' to the world (OK, the UMass) champion of the Kevin Bacon Game

Good job, nerd. =D>

yeah OK...you asked the question, Fooh

All of a sudden Mariano has no heart? Cmon. Anyone remember when he beat the Sox 2 years ago by pitching over 3 innings to end the last game? That guy DEFINES heart.

Jeter
Tino
Posada
Williams
Rivera
Johnson
Pavano
Wright

Those are all battled tested guys.

Sheff
Matsui

Those guys have heart as well. This time will be okay. They might only win the division by 15. My prediction of 18 was a little high. My bad.

All of a sudden Mariano has no heart? Cmon. Anyone remember when he beat the Sox 2 years ago by pitching over 3 innings to end the last game? That guy DEFINES heart.

Jeter
Tino
Posada
Williams
Rivera
Johnson
Pavano
Wright

Those are all battled tested guys.

Sheff
Matsui

Those guys have heart as well. This time will be okay. They might only win the division by 15. My prediction of 18 was a little high. My bad.

I'll give you that Tino, Posada and Bernie have heart. However, they no longer have the physical attributes to do anything with that heart.

I'll give you that Tino, Posada and Bernie have heart. However, they no longer have the physical attributes to do anything with that heart.

Yeah Bernie is done. Posada is still functional but is definitely on the decline.

Tino's skills are long gone (since he stopped injecting) but I still would take a shot at him cranking one out in the postseason.

By cranking one out I mean hit a home run...not what TomShane does at Met games in the bleachers.

Tino is like Scott Brosius. When the spotlight is on, they seem to be the only ones who don't realize how much they suck!

Have Heart and Talent:
Matsui

Have Heart and Little Else:
Tino
Williams
Rivera

Have Talent, but no heart:
ARod
Sheff
Pavano
Wright

Over-rated, in general:
Jeter
Posada

Have Heart and Talent:
Matsui

Have Heart and Little Else:
Tino
Williams
Rivera

Have Talent, but no heart:
ARod
Sheff
Pavano
Wright

Over-rated, in general:
Jeter
Posada

Tom I love when you venture into the baseball forum. Rivera had one of his best years last year and he is the best closer of all time. So you are saying he no longer has talent based on 2 blown saves.

Posada isn't that highly rated. So for a catcher with some pop that isn't rated real high...I am not sure who that qualifies him as OVERRATED.

Jeter is the best SS in baseball today. Again not sure how that makes him overrated.

Pavano? No heart? He has done pretty well for himself early in his career.

Not to worry Tom...JetBosox or Mike Martz will soon be hear to clean up the mess you left behind.

Edgar Renteria>Jeter
Rafael Furcal>Jeter
Jose Reyes>Jeter (2005)

I don't consider Jeter overrated at all.

However, Posada is as overrated as they come. A causal basbeall fan would think Posada was one of the top 3 catchers in baseball. He's not. Actually hes far from it. I've seen way too many weak pop ups in big situations from an apparent "All Star" catcher.

Besides a lucky bloop single in the 2003 ALCS, what exactly has Posada done?

And hes maybe slightly above average behind the plate.

Catchers I'd take over Posada off the top of my head:

Pudge
Varitek
Lo Duca
Kendall
V. Martinez
J. Lopez
R. Hernandez

Edgar Renteria>Jeter
Rafael Furcal>Jeter
Jose Reyes>Jeter (2005)e


Give Reyes a few weeks, his hammys will be shot.

I don't consider Jeter overrated at all.

However, Posada is as overrated as they come. A causal basbeall fan would think Posada was one of the top 3 catchers in baseball. He's not. Actually hes far from it. I've seen way too many weak pop ups in big situations from an apparent "All Star" catcher.

Besides a lucky bloop single in the 2003 ALCS, what exactly has Posada done?

And hes maybe slightly above average behind the plate.

Catchers I'd take over Posada off the top of my head:

Pudge
Varitek
Lo Duca
Kendall
V. Martinez
J. Lopez
R. Hernandez


If Derek Jeter played in Kansas City, no one would ever talk about him. Ever.

I would love to have Paul Lo Duca on the Yankees. If he can hit over .300 playing at dodger stadium he can hit anywhere. (but he's a Marlin now) :x

I don't consider Jeter overrated at all.

However, Posada is as overrated as they come. A causal basbeall fan would think Posada was one of the top 3 catchers in baseball. He's not. Actually hes far from it. I've seen way too many weak pop ups in big situations from an apparent "All Star" catcher.

Besides a lucky bloop single in the 2003 ALCS, what exactly has Posada done?

And hes maybe slightly above average behind the plate.

Catchers I'd take over Posada off the top of my head:

Pudge
Varitek
Lo Duca
Kendall
V. Martinez
J. Lopez
R. Hernandez


If Derek Jeter played in Kansas City, no one would ever talk about him. Ever.

Maybe.

But no one ever talks about Michael Young...right?
Tom, who do people talk about in KC? I bet many never knew about Beltran when he was stuck in KC. All we ever heard was that was the next Yankee CF. Not many causal fans knew much about him.

Look at Derek in the postseason. Granted if he was in KC those numbers wouldn't exist. But we can't ignore the facts that they actually do exist. Correct?

HOWEVER, the fact that Derek gets extra consideration for playing for the premiere franchise in sports automatically should make you question how great a player he is. And he is over-rated. The point about him playing in KC is that if he did, he would not be considered one of the top FIVE SS's in the league. And Max claims he's the BEST. That's horseradish!

Obviously Jeter has the advantage playing NY.

I don't think Jeters the best. Hes probably top 5 though. Consistent .300 hitter that always shows up when they need them (postseason). I'll take it.

As I listen to OH Canada as we speak. :shock:

Obviously Jeter has the advantage playing NY.

I don't think Jeters the best. Hes probably top 5 though. Consistent .300 hitter that always shows up when they need them (postseason). I'll take it.

As I listen to OH Canada as we speak. :shock:

Matt, I'm a baseball idiot and can't continue this debate. Can I have RichardSeymour or JetBosoxFan fill in for me? :lol:

Obviously Jeter has the advantage playing NY.

I don't think Jeters the best. Hes probably top 5 though. Consistent .300 hitter that always shows up when they need them (postseason). I'll take it.

As I listen to OH Canada as we speak. :shock:

Matt, I'm a baseball idiot and can't continue this debate. Can I have RichardSeymour or JetBosoxFan fill in for me? :lol:

Ill lose it with J/B, and RichardSeymour uses to many useless adjectives and thinks hes much smarter than he actually is. I guarantee this kid writes for his college newspaper. Hey the more adjectives, the smarter I look!