View Full Version : so much for having to fear the Red Sox rotation


Blackout™
12-10-2006, 02:13 PM
http://redsox.bostonherald.com/redSox/view.bg?articleid=171334


YES!! :)

GimmeShelter
12-10-2006, 02:17 PM
Posturing by both sides. Celebrate when the deadline passes.

Bugg
12-10-2006, 02:18 PM
The Sawx calling Boras selfish is rich. They pay $51.1 million for the rights to negotiate, and then try to get cheap. I still think it will happen because Seibu really wants the $ 51 million and doesn't want him back. This is all just part of the negotiation. If it doesn't get done, it's uncharted territory. Selig will have egg all over his face again.

Blackout™
12-10-2006, 02:25 PM
The Sawx calling Boras selfish is rich. They pay $51.1 million for the rights to negotiate, and then try to get cheap. I still think it will happen because Seibu really wants the $ 51 million and doesn't want him back. This is all just part of the negotiation. If it doesn't get done, it's uncharted territory. Selig will have egg all over his face again.

seibu has no say in it from now on

its all down to boras and the red sox

JetsMan57
12-10-2006, 02:43 PM
The Sawx calling Boras selfish is rich. They pay $51.1 million for the rights to negotiate, and then try to get cheap. I still think it will happen because Seibu really wants the $ 51 million and doesn't want him back. This is all just part of the negotiation. If it doesn't get done, it's uncharted territory. Selig will have egg all over his face again.

Looks like the Red Socks just wanted to keep him away from the Yankees.

Blackout™
12-10-2006, 02:45 PM
I still dont understand why there needs to be a bid? If Matzusaka wants to come to the MLB why cant he just move to the USA and say "Im here, Im available who wants me?" Like what happened with El Duque and Contereras?

because they chose to leave Cuba

D-mat is in Japan, signed under a legal contract


and lets hope he remains in Japan :D

Bugg
12-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Different cultures, different rules. MLB honors their agreement with Japanese baseball, while they have no agreement with any baseball federations south of the border, or in the case of other international players-Dave Nilsson(Australia) Chein Ming Wang(Taiwan) or Chan Ho Park(South Korea)-it's a free-for-all. And MLB doesn't want to mess with Japan because it's a 2-way street. Players have been traded into Japan like Kevin Millar was, briefly, a few years back. Alfonso Soriano's contract originally was Japanese signee and was posted to the Yankees similar to this whole mess.

#27TheDominator
12-10-2006, 03:38 PM
El Duque and IFAIR Contreras both defected from Cuba and specifically went to a country that would allow them to come in as a true FA. Those defections were true set-ups to go into MLB for top $$, not a family on a '53 F100 floating on old oil drums.

My favorite part of the article is this: "Boras has chafed from the beginning about the inequities of this system and has hinted repeatedly that the process will end either in Matsuzaka signing with the Red Sox or with Matsuzaka declining and having to go back to Japan." Um.... duh. That's what Boras is complaining about. Aren't those the only two options? Yet Boras "hinted" about it.

JetsMan57
12-10-2006, 08:31 PM
Different cultures, different rules. MLB honors their agreement with Japanese baseball, while they have no agreement with any baseball federations south of the border, or in the case of other international players-Dave Nilsson(Australia) Chein Ming Wang(Taiwan) or Chan Ho Park(South Korea)-it's a free-for-all. And MLB doesn't want to mess with Japan because it's a 2-way street. Players have been traded into Japan like Kevin Millar was, briefly, a few years back. Alfonso Soriano's contract originally was Japanese signee and was posted to the Yankees similar to this whole mess.

I see. Thanks.