[SoFlaJets]

Frank Sinatra's "My Way" has been banned from many bars across the Philippines after at least six people were killed in the last decade while performing karaoke renditions of the song.

The so-called "My Way killings" have led to many bars in the karaoke-obsessed country removing the song from their playlists amid fears of violence.

Bar owners believe the number of deaths could be fuelled by what some perceive as "arrogance" in the lyrics of the song.

It is one of the most popular karaoke tunes in the Philippines which also has a more than one million illegally carried guns.

Most of the killings are reported to have happened after the singer sang out of tune and crowds jeered.

In one fatal case Romy Baligula, 29, was shot dead in the city of San Mateoin 2007. He was halfway through My Way when a security guard shouted that he was out of tune. He carried on regardless and the guard shot him in the chest with a revolver.

Karaoke killings have been recorded elsewhere in Asia. In Thailand two years ago a man shot dead eight of his neighbours after becoming enraged when they repeatedly sang John Denver's Take Me Home, Country Roads.

In 2008 Abdul Sani Doli hogged the microphone for so long in Sandakan, Borneo that listeners stabbed him to death.

Rodolfo Gregorio, 63, a karaoke singer in the Philippine city of General Santos, said: "The trouble with My Way is that everyone knows it and everyone has an opinion. You can get killed."

[slats]

How much better would American Idol be if the celebrity judges were armed?

[SoFlaJets]

slats said:

How much better would American Idol be if the celebrity judges were armed?

how much better would American MUSIC be if there was no such thing as American Idol? Maybe we wouldn't have to have artists from the 60's and 70's at SB halftime shows every year.

[NIGHT STALKER]

SoFlaJets said:

how much better would American MUSIC be if there was no such thing as American Idol? Maybe we wouldn't have to have artists from the 60's and 70's at SB halftime shows every year.

Blasphemy...are you trying to say that today's music sucks...LOL.

[slats]

SoFlaJets said:

how much better would American MUSIC be if there was no such thing as American Idol? Maybe we wouldn't have to have artists from the 60's and 70's at SB halftime shows every year.

I can't put my finger on what's wrong with music today. I like a lot of new stuff, but none of it seems really enduring. Seems like everyone's going for the lowest common denominator. Music is so fractured that there's a bunch of little niches, but no great imagination capturing, barrier crossing pop artists anymore. Michael Jackson was probably the last one. CD's produced today are commercials for concerts, when in the old days concerts were commercials for the albums.

In the 60's there was a revolution in recording that lasted for a long time while artists expanded their boundaries in the studio. Today, and kid with a decent understanding of recording software can put together a radio quality track in his bedroom. There's not as much value in song writing anymore, instead it's about auto-tuning and production.

Sad, really.

[Klecko73isGod]

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In Thailand two years ago a man shot dead eight of his neighbours after becoming enraged when they repeatedly sang John Denver's Take Me Home, Country Roads.

:rl:

[SoFlaJets]

slats said:

I can't put my finger on what's wrong with music today. I like a lot of new stuff, but none of it seems really enduring. Seems like everyone's going for the lowest common denominator. Music is so fractured that there's a bunch of little niches, but no great imagination capturing, barrier crossing pop artists anymore. Michael Jackson was probably the last one. CD's produced today are commercials for concerts, when in the old days concerts were commercials for the albums.

In the 60's there was a revolution in recording that lasted for a long time while artists expanded their boundaries in the studio. Today, and kid with a decent understanding of recording software can put together a radio quality track in his bedroom. There's not as much value in song writing anymore, instead it's about auto-tuning and production.

Sad, really.

after reading NS's response mine was gonna be just what you said slats; that none of it seems enduring. I swear I get more requests from the 24 year olds in my audience for Turn The Page and Brown Eyed Girl than I do for Dave Matthews...I sort of put the blame on The American Idol "phenomenon". Kelly Clarkson, Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, Carrie Underwood, Taylor Hicks, Jordin Sparks, David Cook, all good for maybe a hit or two but not much meat there IMO

[Bruce Banner]

I thought the whole point of karaoke is to make fun of people who can't sing. I guess they do it differently in the phils.

[SoFlaJets]

Bruce Banner said:

I thought the whole point of karaoke is to make fun of people who can't sing. I guess they do it differently in the phils.

no, that's never been the point of it BB-it's a place for people who want to be singers can show their talent-if they suck and everybody laughs at them so be it.

I have a friend Tim who was the lead singer of a local band who was great, could sing Journey REO Speedwagon, that kind of stuff who took to running a Karaoke night when his band fell apart.

[slowmoe57]

i can not nor will not say "American Idol" has hurt music -- It hasn't helped much niether. It is fluff nothing more nor less. It seems the 4th place singers have fared better than the winners themselves in some cases. I am an old school rock fan and the thing I hear is that all newer groups today all sound pretty much alike, When Van Halen started they grabbed your attention same for Guns and Roses or even Metalica -- But todays standards I have not heard any band that comes out and grabs you by the throat in the formentioned manner. But than again I am getting older.

[kelticwizard]

SoFlaJets said:

In one fatal case Romy Baligula, 29, was shot dead in the city of San Mateoin 2007. He was halfway through My Way.....

But where will they find a jury to convict........

[SoFlaJets]

slowmoe57 said:

i can not nor will not say "American Idol" has hurt music -- It hasn't helped much niether. It is fluff nothing more nor less. It seems the 4th place singers have fared better than the winners themselves in some cases. I am an old school rock fan and the thing I hear is that all newer groups today all sound pretty much alike, When Van Halen started they grabbed your attention same for Guns and Roses or even Metalica -- But todays standards I have not heard any band that comes out and grabs you by the throat in the formentioned manner. But than again I am getting older.

granted SM 5-7...yes we might be starting to sound like our parents when talking about 'the music of today' but even my parents could recognize the talent in a group like The Beatles back when they came out. My son is becoming a pretty damn good pianist listens to The Beatles and Elton John and learns THAT stuff...personally I haven't heard a great band since the 90's-the 2000's sucked. IDK maybe RutgersJets can chime in here and show us different

[DLJ]

Those Asians are serious about their Karaoke. Don't f-ck with them!

[war ensemble]

There have been some good bands in the 2000's...you just have to look for them.
Liquid Tension Experiment/Liquid Trio Experiment/Liquid Trio Experiment 2
Dream Theater (three GREAT albums: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Train of Thought, and Octavarium...two others that I haven't checked out yet.)
Alice in Chains (Black Gives Way to Blue)
Megadeth (Endgame, United Abominations)
Them Crooked Vultures
Iron Savior
Suidakra

etc.etc.

The underground hip hop scene has also been awesome for the 2000's...
Necro
Goretex
Ill Bill
Immortal Technique
Army of the Pharaohs
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mr. Hyde
Non-Phixion
Canibus
Circle of Tyrants
Tech N9ne

This post has been edited by war ensemble: 10 February 2010 - 10:57 AM

[slats]

war ensemble said:

There have been some good bands in the 2000's...you just have to look for them.
Liquid Tension Experiment/Liquid Trio Experiment/Liquid Trio Experiment 2
Dream Theater (three GREAT albums: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, Train of Thought, and Octavarium...two others that I haven't checked out yet.)
Alice in Chains (Black Gives Way to Blue)
Megadeth (Endgame, United Abominations)
Them Crooked Vultures
Iron Savior
Suidakra

etc.etc.

The underground hip hop scene has also been awesome for the 2000's...
Necro
Goretex
Ill Bill
Immortal Technique
Army of the Pharaohs
Jedi Mind Tricks
Mr. Hyde
Non-Phixion
Canibus
Circle of Tyrants
Tech N9ne

I don't know the majority of those acts, but that's kinda the point I was making. There's definitely good "niche" music out there. There are still people who care about writing good songs, or creating an interesting project. There just isn't anyone like that that's really taken the mainstream by storm. No one you listed above is going to be playing the Super Bowl anytime soon. ;)

[SoFlaJets]

slats said:

I don't know the majority of those acts, but that's kinda the point I was making. There's definitely good "niche" music out there. There are still people who care about writing good songs, or creating an interesting project. There just isn't anyone like that that's really taken the mainstream by storm. No one you listed above is going to be playing the Super Bowl anytime soon. ;)

two of those groups aren't 200's bands; Alice In Chains and Megadeth...AIC doesn't have their lead singer anymore and like slats said none of those bands will ever play a SB...or have a song on the radio that most of us here can ever say "hey, that's Ill Bill!!!"

[war ensemble]

SoFlaJets said:

two of those groups aren't 200's bands; Alice In Chains and Megadeth...AIC doesn't have their lead singer anymore and like slats said none of those bands will ever play a SB...or have a song on the radio that most of us here can ever say "hey, that's Ill Bill!!!"

**** the mainstream. Why does it matter whether music one likes is popular or not?

Alice in Chains and Megadeth's last album are great. I don't see how it matters who is actually in the band as long as it sounds good. Both are pulling 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon so clearly I'm not the only one that likes them.

This post has been edited by war ensemble: 10 February 2010 - 12:26 PM

[Panzer Division Marduk]

slats said:

How much better would American Idol be if the celebrity judges were armed?

Not near as good as if the contestants were armed.

[Panzer Division Marduk]

war ensemble said:

**** the mainstream. Why does it matter whether music one likes is popular or not?

Alice in Chains and Megadeth's last album are great. I don't see how it matters who is actually in the band as long as it sounds good. Both are pulling 4.5 out of 5 stars on Amazon so clearly I'm not the only one that likes them.

Did you hear Ellefson's back in Megadeth?

[war ensemble]

Panzer Division Marduk said:

Did you hear Ellefson's back in Megadeth?

I actually didn't notice that. THAT IS AWESOME. I thought Lomenzo was the weak link with their Endgame lineup. I'm not too big a fan of Drover but Broderick is beast. That's a great lineup.