Matt39 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Ripping former players? Doesn't this kind of go against everything he's all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Ripping former players? Doesn't this kind of go against everything he's all about? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Only excerpt that I saw was from Sports Illustrated last week, which was about the Revis situation, which basically didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Only excerpt that I saw was from Sports Illustrated last week, which was about the Revis situation, which basically didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. He rips both Rhodes and Gholston. Both on things we already knew...just seems out of character for Rex to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Hey, the guy needed to make up the earnings gap somehow considering his paycut. I suppose that he could have supplemented it instead by distibuting amateur foot fetish videos, but this seems like the safer route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 I have never bought into all the talk that coaches treat their players like their own kids et al. I mean would a parent want his kid to play with a broken bone. Most would not! Neither do most players buy into it. No matter what they tell the person on TeeVee. That's why Revis held out as long as he can for the best deal he could get. He could care less what Rex thought about it. In the end, it's all business. Like selling books. And Rhodes and Gholston are acceptable causalities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Rex tells it like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Rex tells it like it is. If you believe that, he has you fooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 If you believe that, he has you fooled. On former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston... Truth be told, I didn’t like the kid coming out of college. He's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony. We had him come to Baltimore, and I just didn’t believe in him, I even told (former Jets coach Eric) Mangini not to draft him. Well suddenly he was on my team and I was going to have to work with him, I was not just going to give up on him – that’s too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 On former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston... Truth be told, I didn’t like the kid coming out of college. He's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony. We had him come to Baltimore, and I just didn’t believe in him, I even told (former Jets coach Eric) Mangini not to draft him. Well suddenly he was on my team and I was going to have to work with him, I was not just going to give up on him – that’s too easy. There you go-When Ryan came to NY, he was effusive about Ghoston-And he had to be-he was toeing a corporate line. Do not tell us Ryan tells it like it is. No one does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 If you believe that, he has you fooled. On former Jets S Kerry Rhodes... He was a selfish-a$$ guy. He wouldn’t work, and he was a Hollywood type, flashy and needing attention. I don’t mind flashy, but your work ethic had better back it up. Scott Dierking you were saying fool............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 On former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston... Truth be told, I didn’t like the kid coming out of college. He's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony. We had him come to Baltimore, and I just didn’t believe in him, I even told (former Jets coach Eric) Mangini not to draft him. Well suddenly he was on my team and I was going to have to work with him, I was not just going to give up on him – that’s too easy. That's funny, Rex calling Gholston a phony considering how much he publicly kissed Vernon's a$$ the last two years and now admits to lying about that. Who's more phony in this situation? Who advised him to get involved in a book like this, Joe Torre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 On former Jets S Kerry Rhodes... He was a selfish-a$$ guy. He wouldn’t work, and he was a Hollywood type, flashy and needing attention. I don’t mind flashy, but your work ethic had better back it up. Scott Dierking you were saying fool............ On Kerry, two years ago: "I see him doing Ed Reed-like things in this defense. He's a talented guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 On former Jets S Kerry Rhodes... He was a selfish-a$$ guy. He wouldn’t work, and he was a Hollywood type, flashy and needing attention. I don’t mind flashy, but your work ethic had better back it up. Scott Dierking you were saying fool............ He has you hook line and sinker. I don't expect him to tell it like it is-That is professional suicide. But for you to believe it, well, I won't say what that is. Telling it like it is would be saying those things WHEN HE WAS HERE. He won't do that, and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 More on this from nj.com Rex Ryan's book, "Play Like You Mean It: Passion, laughs, and leadership in the world's most beautiful game," begins with the Jets losing the AFC Championship Game in Indianapolis in 2010 and goes both forward and back to recount and explain the personality and career of the Jets coach. Ryan dedicates the book, which will be released next week, to his father, Buddy, who Ryan writes "taught me so much about football ... and taught me how important it was to love the game." Written in a conversational style, with former Sports Illustrated editor Don Yaeger, the book includes testimonial excerpts from several important men in Ryan's career -- Brian Billick, Ozzie Newsome, Woody Johnson, Bart Scott and Jason Taylor, among others -- and touches on his upbringing, his family and his philosophy for the game of football. Befitting his brash personality, Ryan ends on this note: "But if you're a Jets fan, there's one thing I will promise you: Everything we do, everything I do, will be to make sure that we bring the Lombardi Trophy home. I said it the week after we lost to the Steelers and I'll say it every time I'm asked. ... This team is soon to be Champs!" Here are a few noteworthy hits from the 270 pages: On the incident involving TV Azteca reporter Ines Sainz... We were exactly one week from opening the season against the Ravens in our new stadium ... and this is what I'm dealing with. Now, I could go on for pages and pages about what happened, and what definitely did not happen, but at this point the whole incident has been discussed and dissected, and I don’t think anyone on either side found much to talk about. The incident shook me up beyond belief, partially because my name was being dragged into a situation that I hadn’t even witnessed, and partially because we already had the image of being goof-offs because of Hard Knocks, and now we were on the verge of developing a reputation for being jerks, too. It was, honestly, killing me. On WR Braylon Edwards' punishment after his DWI arrest last September... Some people criticize me by saying that being benched for one quarter isn’t a punishment, that I don'tknow how to discipline or control my team. Most people said they would have suspended him from the team right then. I just don't work that way … Braylon was paying for his mistakes, whether the media knows it or not. On Buddy Ryan punching Kevin Gilbride, when both were Oilers coordinators... So it’s in the final game of the regular season, on January 2, 1994, and Gilbride calls a pass play at the end of the first half with the Oilers winning. Back up quarterback Cody Carlson fumbles the ball and the defense has to go back out there. My dad starts yelling at Gilbride, who starts yelling back and walking toward my dad. So what does my dad do? He punches Gilbride in the jaw and the players have to break them up. Now that’s not normal, I’ll admit. But you have to know my dad. On former Jets first-round pick Vernon Gholston... Truth be told, I didn’t like the kid coming out of college. He's a good athlete and a smart guy, but I thought he was a phony. We had him come to Baltimore, and I just didn’t believe in him, I even told (former Jets coach Eric) Mangini not to draft him. Well suddenly he was on my team and I was going to have to work with him, I was not just going to give up on him – that’s too easy. On trading up for QB Mark Sanchez in the 2009 draft... (Rams GM) Billy (Devaney) suggested they may have an interest in mark and asked me, "Rex, if that happens, what are you going to do?” I told him I was scheduled to take the next flight out, heading to Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and I was determined to talk Brett Favre into coming back to play for the Jets. If we hadn’t traded up, our plan to was to select Florida receiver Percy Harvin. And then I was going to head straight to Mississippi to get Favre to come back to New York. Instead, I have the quarterback who will be here with me for the next 10 years, count on it On former Jets S Kerry Rhodes... He was a selfish-a$$ guy. He wouldn’t work, and he was a Hollywood type, flashy and needing attention. I don’t mind flashy, but your work ethic had better back it up. On earning the trust of WR Santonio Holmes... Once we got Holmes I wanted (commissioner Roger) Goodell to come down and talk with Santonio after one of our minicamps. Then I said, "I'd like for you to bring him closer to me." Goodell said okay, but he wanted to know what I had in mind. I said, when the three of us sit down, I want you to take the first 10 minutes of our conversation to rip my a$$ in front of Santonio – about what I've done off the field, how I've embarrassed the league. ... I wanted (Holmes) to know that we needed to be be better, not just for the league, but for each other. On trading for Holmes... Just before we made the deal, I was checking around about Holmes. Mike Tomlin, the Steelers’ coach, was done with Holmes by then, tired of dealing with everything. He told other coaches around the league that Holmes would never play another down of football. The whole league believed him, which is part of the way we worked out the deal. On trading for Edwards... I heard all the bad stuff about Edwards from the Cleveland coaches, but let me tell you the one person I talked to who really mattered: my brother Rob, who had been there for about nine months when we made the deal. My brother told me, “Don’t worry about it Rex, you'll love this guy.” Rob saw through all the negativity and the anger from the team and from the kid. On the 45-3 regular season loss to New England... (Bill Belichick) had his guys ready to play. I didn’t. that’s why I took the heat. But let me say this, if we’d had (Jim) Leonhard, there's no way we would have been beaten that bad. On the TripGate incident against the Dolphins... I'm telling you right now, I had no idea about it. Mike Westhoff, our special-teams coach, had no idea about it. I promise you that. I'd happily take a lie-detector test to prove it. On Patriots WR Wes Welker's sly comments regarding the foot-fetish reports about Ryan and wife, Michelle... Look, it didn’t bother me. I'm not going to let that affect me. But it did get Welker benched for the first series by Belichick, so I was fine with that. ... When I went to Hawaii, the kid came up and apologized to me and my wife. No hard feelings. On beating the Patriots to advance to the AFC Championship Game... After the game, Belichick was great. He came up to me and said, "That was an unbelievable coaching job; you deserve it and I hope you win the whole thing." He really said that, and I could tell he was sincere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 cause he's at the height of his poularity after this past season, and the money is never likely to be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Aaaand there goes Mike Tomlin under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 In all seriousness, Rex might be playing with fire here. One wouldn't imagine that it'd be all that difficult to get a few of his wife's Johns together and put together a nice lil' unauthorized biography on Rex's life behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 This is all fodder for guys at ESPN who suddenly have some other stuff to speak about on football other than that wretched business killing labor issue. And all this talk will sell Rex Ryan a lot of books! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visajets Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Ok then......................lets all hate Rex Ryan. Happy now Scott Dierking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Ok then......................lets all hate Rex Ryan. Happy now Scott Dierking... I like Rex Ryan. I just will not be naive and swallow all the tripe that he dishes. That is his style and I understand it. But that does not mean that I have to believe that everything he says is unexpurgated. He is very calculated. Most good coaches are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 On Kerry, two years ago: "I see him doing Ed Reed-like things in this defense. He's a talented guy" Well what else was he gonna say when they were on the team on at the time? Rex: "Kerry, well he sucks. I've seen nuns that hit harder than him. And Gholston, talk about a worthless sack of sh*t. You all want me to transform him into Suggs but the guy is too stupid to even run straight at the QB. He's dumber than a bag of rocks." They were already here and Rex probably didn't want them on the team so maybe he figured if I blow up their image I'll have a better shot of trading them for decent picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 is it a book about gay porn ? no ? cool then who the hell cares wtf it's about ? what a bunch of grannies around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 is it a book about gay porn ? no ? cool then who the hell cares wtf it's about ? what a bunch of grannies around here The book seems contradictory that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 is it a book about gay porn ? no ? cool then who the hell cares wtf it's about ? what a bunch of grannies around here Says the man with 7900 plus posts on an interwebz fan forum! I am sure all of them 7900 posts were very relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Says the man with 7900 plus posts on an interwebz fan forum! I am sure all of them 7900 posts were very relevant. mostly a mixed bag of hopeful game day youtube videos, post game crying, bad jokes and game ball threads but I really don't see what that has to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 The book seems contradictory that's all. don't buy it then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Well what else was he gonna say when they were on the team on at the time? Rex: "Kerry, well he sucks. I've seen nuns that hit harder than him. And Gholston, talk about a worthless sack of sh*t. You all want me to transform him into Suggs but the guy is too stupid to even run straight at the QB. He's dumber than a bag of rocks." They were already here and Rex probably didn't want them on the team so maybe he figured if I blow up their image I'll have a better shot of trading them for decent picks. It's fine to blow smoke up the media's a$$ about a player. Happens all the time. It just strikes me as a little ghey to come back two years later and rip a guy in a book so you can earn a couple of bucks. Especially when you're a coach who prides himself on loyalty. As always, if Belichick did this, Jets fans would get carpal tunnel ripping him to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 is it a book about gay porn ? no ? cool then who the hell cares wtf it's about ? what a bunch of grannies around here Is this a thread about gay porn? No? Cool. Then why would you care wtf it's about? What a bunch of grannies around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Is this a thread about gay porn? No? Cool. Then why would you care wtf it's about? What a bunch of grannies around here. is this reply about gay porn ? No ? cool then why would you care wtf my post was about ? what a bunch of grannies in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73andMe Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 These days, everyone of any importance, in most every industry, is writing a book--especially if they feel they have something to say or contribute. I personally like Rex Ryan. He has every right to write a book and you have every right to read it or not, critique it or not or Say like you mean it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 is this reply about gay porn ? No ? cool then why would you care wtf my post was about ? what a bunch of grannies in here Now you're getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 On trading up for QB Mark Sanchez in the 2009 draft... If we hadn’t traded up, our plan to was to select Florida receiver Percy Harvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 If the world were to end and the Jets were to win a superbowl, I'm sure there'd be a thread complaining about the fashion we won it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 If the world were to end and the Jets were to win a superbowl, I'm sure there'd be a thread complaining about the fashion we won it in. we're never winning another Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 There you go-When Ryan came to NY, he was effusive about Ghoston-And he had to be-he was toeing a corporate line. Do not tell us Ryan tells it like it is. No one does that. What Ryan says publicly and what he says to players are two totally different things. Just because he was publicly praising Gholston for the company line doesn'tmean for second that he was kissing Gholston's a$$ in private. Quite the contrary, I think you saw alot of how he truly handles players in Hard Knocks. He had no qualms calling out bad players at all. In fact, I specifically remember his comment about Slauson saying something to the likes of "when you look at this guy play (Slauson), you gotta wonder can this guy really be THAT bad (Ducasse)". he also clearly was giving it to Rhodes before he departed. Rhodes was benched, whining to the press and basically called out for the world to see. All coaches need to present a certain "line" about players and coaches to the press, but I have no doubt that every player knows exactly where they stand with Rex at all times. Those that work hard get praise. Those that don't get no love at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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